This episode tells the story of a humble, passionate, and inspiring human being who gave his all for the science of Precision Teaching. Dr. Carl Koenig was instrumental in the creation of the behavior chart, now called the Standard Celeration Chart and the foundations of Precision Teaching. Carl spent over a decade of his life working alongside Dr. Ogden Lindsley through the highs and lows of shaping Precision Teaching in the 60s and 70s.

In this episode, he will take us on a journey beginning with his early work experience at Kansas University, how he met Ogden, the development of precision teaching, and their efforts to spread the work to professionals and parents, amongst other things.

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3:15 Carl’s childhood and his early work experience.

6:57 How he met Ogden Lindsley and how he got to Kansas University.

8:45 The development of Precision Teaching.

22:09 About his master’s degree and dissertations.

29:01 Carl’s findings that behavior multiplies and divides.

32:33 Workshops and other tested publishing alternatives to spread the word about Precision Teaching.

38:00 What the Behavior Bank was and how the state of technology got in the way of what could have been a state of the art hub for knowledge about behavior.

42:36 Two other attempts to apply the science: learning screening and PT 2. (Squared).

53:19 Carl’s life now that he’s retired.

Our Aims, Discoveries, Failures, and Problem by Ogden R. Lindsley (dissertation)

Handbook of the Standard Celeration Chart, Deluxe Edition (book)

My Time with Ogden and Precision Teaching Reminisces by Dr. Carl H. Koenig (pdf) - Check out our Facebook Group for this and many more resources!

30:45 “Behavior generally changes not in equal steps.”

50:21 “It’s not too late to make good science.”

57:21 “Accept the fact that technology is improving and improving and improving and it's better than sometimes we could do.”