
88. Dr. Robert Cialdini on Persuasion and Influence in Modern Marketing
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What makes people say "yes"? Rocket Agency’s Co-Founder James Lawrence sits down with Dr. Robert Cialdini, the godfather of influence and the world’s foremost authority on the psychology of persuasion, to talk about the timeless principles behind his work, his seventh principle of influence - Unity - and how AI, ethics and empathy are shaping persuasion in modern marketing.
Key Takeaways:- Origin story: How Dr. Cialdini went “undercover” in multiple industries to discover the universal principles of influence
- A walkthrough of the original six principles - Reciprocity, Scarcity, Authority, Consistency, Liking and Social Proof
- The 7th principle - Unity: Why bonds formed by shared identity matter today
- The importance of ethics: Why marketers should use persuasion techniques truthfully and responsibly
- Influence vs cultural differences: How different regions (e.g., Australia, Asia, Scandinavia) prioritise different principles of influence
- The rise of AI: How marketers are using AI to apply Cialdini’s principles
- The science of “pre-suasion” and how setting context before your message boosts effectiveness
- Real-world examples of effective use of influence and persuasion from brands like Avis, L’Oreal and Best Buy
Guest:
Dr. Robert Cialdini is a globally renowned psychologist and the bestselling author of Influence: The Psychology of Persuasion, Pre-Suasion, and Yes!. His groundbreaking research on why people say 'yes' has shaped the way professionals across marketing, sales, leadership and behavioral science approach persuasion.
He is often referred to as the godfather of influence, and his principles of influence drive ethical influence strategies today.
You can follow Dr. Cialdini on LinkedIn.
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