Our special guests this episode are Hilcia Pena (Architect / Walt Disney Imagineer) & her husband / returning guest Jameel Haiat (Author / Poet / Creative / Punk). Jameel and I were both living and woking (our dreams!) in NYC on September 11, 2001.

We both were starting our mornings, heading to work on that blue-skied, crisp, early fall morning when everything changed in our city, our country, our world. There would be positive and negative transformations to come from this event: some emboldened to spread their negativity, while some positively heroic & giving of their lives to helping others.

It is this TRANSFORMATION which we Jameel and Gordon will be remembering in this Episode.

To avoid setting off any triggers, this is not a retelling of the horrific events of that day. Instead, we are focussing on how we personally transformed or had a new reality transform all around us.

Perspectives change.

Change for positivity.

LOVE

To find out more about the events of September 11, 2001 in NYC, please visit https://www.911memorial.org/

Find more about Hilcia and Jameel's Creative Life:

https://localyetnot.com/about-us/

https://www.jameelhaiat.com/

This episode features the beautiful instrumental score “Wayward” by John Witcher. https://music.apple.com/us/album/wayward/917718468?i=917718484

IN THE BEGINNING... John Witcher & Gordon Meier started the podcast to talk about their creative experiences: successes, failures, inspirations & what influences them to continue collaborating creatively for over 30 years.

In creating those first 20 podcasts, they grew in understanding and awareness, both individually and in working more closely together than they had in 25 years.

The episodes went from being “topical” to “discovering meaning”, from the shared experiences of their past to what has become part of themselves, as individuals, today.

NOW is a new phase of self-discovery and of TRANSFORMATION.

Going beyond “topic” to “faith in living the message”.

Change is now embraced more than ever, and the next episodes will revolve around the lives of our guests, their history, their creative transformations and faith to follow that voice in their head.

Practicing what we Preach!

GO. BE. CREATIVE!
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