Brett and Natasha, an interracial couple return with tips on making progress in the "racism dialogue". Why do whites need to be the ones to start this? Brett and Natasha both give their input on how to proceed and what a bright future is possible if we do!

Brett and Natasha are an inter-racial couple with 2 young children. They talk to me about the experiences involved in her being with a white man, his desire to protect her from constant and ongoing racism and how they navigate the world.

Wimbi Simbi, environmental scientist and Global Citizen speaks to us from her native Zimbabwe. We continue the conversation surrounding systemic racism in healthcare internationally. This time, Wimbi gives great tips on ways we can resolve the racist and gender biases in healthcare.

In this episode we talk to Wimbi Simbi, who is an environmental scientist in Zimbabwe and has lived in Australia and South Africa. Wimbi tells her personal stories of being dismissed by much of the medical community because of her race and then gender. This part of white privilege isn't often addressed and Wimbi weaves the narrative beautifully.

Chisa Johnson shares her experiences of being in the workplace as a black woman, her best bosses and the sometimes subtle spillover of white privilege into the workplace.

Recovery Coach, Peta Dukes of South Africa talks to us about the trauma of Apartheid and racism. Peta reveals what her Zulu mother taught her about the true meaning of "Ubuntu". There is hope and healing we can achieve together by exercising compassion and seeing humanity as a whole.

Peta Dukes, a Recovery Coach, pianist and political activist in South Africa shares the story of Daphne, the Zulu mother who helped raise and inspire her. Peta talks to us about Apartheid, propaganda, the facade of freedom in 1994 when Apartheid ended and her hopes for the future.

Elke Geising, author of, Can We Talk, Will I Listen? (available on Amazon) joins us again for a continuing discussion of racism in South Africa, white power and taking active steps against racism leading to self-healing.