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“I feel that personally, I had to go through these deep, deep levels of [loss] so that I could help people in the future from having to do that… A lot of what I went through was with purpose, which helps on the other side of it.” Caryn Johnson is the co-founder and CEO of Bond, an innovative line of supplements that reimagines hormone and reproductive health. Inspired by her experience with her autoimmune fertility and her journey to bring her two children into the world, Caryn is on a mission to address women's health more holistically, and encourage a more proactive conversation around reproductive wellness. When Caryn began her conception journey as a newlywed, she had no idea what a life-changing experience it would be. After a year of trying to conceive without a single positive test and subsequent unsuccessful fertility treatments, Caryn began to explore the idea that her struggle getting pregnant went beyond just her reproductive organs. Frustrated and confused, Caryn took charge of her situation and became her own advocate, eventually learning that her infertility was actually caused by her immunocompromisation. Caryn and I talked about the difficulty she had getting her doctors to take her concerns seriously, how her spiritual beliefs helped her cope with loss, and how she eventually found answers by working with doctors at a reproductive immunology clinic. We also discussed the harrowing and miraculous pregnancy that gave Caryn her son and her experience of having a surrogate carry her daughter. What we explore in this episode: Caryn discovered that she was immunocompromised after struggling with infertility and early loss (03:59) Becoming your own advocate (06:07) The shift that discovering infertility causes in your life (11:37) How Caryn dealt with her career during her fertility journey (24:25) The anxious, uncertain feelings we experience during a pregnancy after loss (27:41) Caryn’s infertility experience directly inspired the creation of BOND (38:34) Connect with Caryn: @_bondlife @itswhoopi Bond Supplements LinkedIn Connect with Nathalie: AllOverAgainPodcast.com @AllOverAgainPodcast LinkedIn