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In the season 1 finale, Kate decides she should have another season after over 6 years of not realizing she was still technically in season one of Be There in Five, then delves into her candid experience with motherhood she’s promised the main feed for the last year. Enjoy a follow-up from Childless Mill, some cheesy mom thoughts about cuteness aggression & having no chill, practical tips about L&D, surviving months 1-3, and feeling surprised by her social identity, among many other discussions inside the vast world of motherhood. Join her to debunk some of her prior misconceptions and confirm plenty of former doomsday perceptions, with heartfelt personal anecdotes aplenty. After this episode, Kate’s taking a hiatus until September, so if you want more bonus content & weekly BTIF episodes, go to patreon.com/bethereinfive. Join for a year for 10% off or join for a day, she’s not picky. Enjoy!

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This week, Kate explores the Ballerina Farm article heard ‘round the World Wide Web and reacts to the Times UK profile of homesteaders Hannah Neeleman and her husband Daniel, who run a picturesque farm in Utah with their eight children. Kate high-level examines Neeleman’s portrayal of farm life, the influence of their Mormon faith on gender roles, how that lack of context likely made the article more inflammatory to a secular audience, and discusses the complexities of claimed empowerment in our choices when they’re from a finite set of options. She also goes on a gratuitous Juilliard tangent (the Troy Bolton of it all), but not before a predictable plea to her audience to not marry someone after three weeks and a rant about bearing children being left up to God's will. Kate also touches on her confusion about the label of “trad wife,” wonders if she is one while her son is on her lap while she records, and attempts to explore the nuances of active versus passive harm when promoting a certain traditional (or regressive) lifestyle on the internet. Enjoy!

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This week, Kate is joined by Hannah Berner, comedian and host of the popular podcasts Giggly Squad and Berner Phone, and the star of her new Netflix special, We Ride at Dawn. Broadcasting from a studio in NYC, Kate asks about her trajectory since reality TV, the flawless burnt amber matching set outfit choice, navigating the male-dominated stand-up scene, and the importance of centering niche female humor in mainstream spaces. They also discuss the pressure women face in their 30s, the ever-present dilemma of having kids, and how Hannah feels that tennis is now an aesthetic, among other things. Enjoy!

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This week, we’re joined by two friends of the pod, Sami Sage (Betches Co-Founder) and Emily Amick (@emilyinyourphone) about their book Democracy in Retrograde (released 7/9). The discussion focuses on how to spark civic engagement amid increased societal polarization, challenges in public civic life, the importance of making civic duties enjoyable, and how digital lives influence political participation. From pivotal issues like minority rule to voter suppression, Sami and Emily offer practical advice and their real-life experience to help us all feel a little better about being more civics-minded and involved. Enjoy!

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This week, Kate is deep-diving into America's Sweethearts, a docu-series about the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders, which recently debuted on the heels of a canceled reality show Kate had a love/hate relationship with (but watched for 16 seasons): Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders: Making The Team.

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In the first hour, Kate reviews the docuseries solo and gives her lukewarm takes about their choice to give up production control, her deep-seated fear of Kelli McGonagill Finglass, the immense talent of the women and impressive legacy of the brand, and DCC being the last frontier of a place that seems to openly discriminates based on body type while asking you to do the most and get paid the least. Additionally, the challenges of professional cheerleading, including mental health struggles, relationship dynamics, body image pressures, compensation issues, and the support systems necessary for resilience

In the second hour, Kate is honored to be joined by one of the stars of the docuseries, former 4-year veteran Victoria Kalina, who captivated audiences with her candor about the challenges of a life spent chasing the DCC dream and what navigating sisterhood, mental health, and body image really looks like behind the scenes. She answers all your questions, from who she keeps in touch with, who was really invited to her Tiktok party, the infamous twin bed, the final meeting with Kelli and Judy, finding purpose in sharing about her mental health, the pressure involved with being a legacy, while sharing what she's up to now that she's chosen to build a legacy for herself. Enjoy!

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This week, we’ve got a highly anticipated podcast crossover—Jac Vanek, Becca Tobin, and Keltie Knight from LadyGang join Be There in Five! The discussion journeys through their early days of rebranding (IYKYK) to classic millennial nostalgia and the not-so-hidden issues that accompanied some of our favorite pastimes. They discuss dance culture's economic and cultural challenges, the problematic nature of early internet culture (looking at you, AIM chat rooms), and interactions with celebrities from red carpets to IRL sightings. Enjoy!

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This week, Kate is answering listener voicemails, like dishing on the culinary delight of buffalo chicken wraps while exploring the dynamics of grilled vs. breaded chicken. Then, she discusses how she thinks people conflate data about screen time overuse with general screen time use and rants about not buying into the “mom guilt.” She also delves into hot pop culture topics, including Taylor Swift's chart strategies against artists like Billie Eilish and Charli XCX, and revisits Olivia Rodrigo’s song “The Grudge.” She also discusses the new “It girls” of pop, like Chappell Roan, Sabrina Carpenter, and Renee Rapp, and finishes answering a question about her plans for Teddy to have siblings. Enjoy!

03:18 Musings of a Buffalo Chicken Wrap Enthusiast05:14 I don't care what I'm getting; I demand breading16:21 Screen Time and Parenting38:11 New Pop "It Girls" - Renee Rapp, Chappell Roan, Sabrina Carpenter53:07 Charli XCX and the Taylor Swift Chart Controversy01:30:57 Personal Reflections: Siblings and Parenthood

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