What if the most powerful thing you could offer someone wasn’t advice or solutions—but just your presence?

In this episode, Cody and Jesse catch up with their good friend Scott Sommer, an FBI chaplain who shares wild, heartfelt, and sometimes hilarious stories from his years of showing up in the hardest moments. From a parking ticket that launched a career to sitting with people as they take their final breaths, Scott reminds us that being there matters more than having the right words. You'll walk away seeing grief, courage, and real love through a whole new lens. It’s a raw, hopeful, and surprisingly funny conversation about what truly matters—and why simply being there can change everything.

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