Gillian talks to Jessica about her background, work for the Michigan Government and now for her own business, Preservation Forward. Lots of gems about learning a trade, codes, women in conventionally male jobs, and educating the next generation.

On this episode of BrickTalkLive, our guest today, Michael Schuller, talks to Alan Pettingale about what he loves to do - which includes traveling to work in far off locations like Easter Island, the Taj Mahal, and Angkor Wat - in addition to his work at his headquarters in Colorado.

Back when Alan left the military, he came across an article that led him on an odyssey to become a mason with a particular interest in masonry restoration. Listen to hear how this all came about, and what happened when Al came to America with his knowledged skills,

Al relates how he met Professor Tom Grimm, and that Tom Grimm told him to go to The Masonry Society meeting on his behalf, and be sure to find Mike Schuller. From there the stories and history progress, including more recent developments in The Masonry Society, and how crucial it is for both engineers and masons to belong.

Find out more at Brick Talk Live's site and more about Al at his site AlanPettingale.com and about Michael Schuller at the site for his company.

Join Alan Pettingale and Gillian Lancaster as they talk about historic brick preservation, and the differences in techniques in the US and those of the e rest of the world.

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