This week we welcome Mark Mulligan of MIDiA Research who has had a ringside seat for years and years of bubbles, be it the creator economy, NFTs or AI music, or just everyone claiming they are gaining market share at the same time. He is the founder and driving force behind the tiny little company that an entire industry looks to as the source of truth.

For more on Bubble Trouble, including transcripts of the show, visit us online at http://bubbletroublepodcast.com

You can learn more about Richard at https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-kramer-16306b2/

More on Will Page at: https://pivotaleconomics.com

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In this episode of Bubble Trouble, hosts Richard Kramer and Will Page are joined by Mark Mulligan, a leading music industry analyst and founder of MIDiA Research. They delve into the intricate world of the music industry, discussing the evolution from digital streaming to the rise of new phenomena such as NFTs and AI in music. The trio explores the concept of bifurcation in markets and the distinction between high-end experiences versus bargain deals within the industry. The conversation also touches on the significant cultural shifts, the role of trade associations, and the future of personalized music experiences. Despite the optimism around technology, the hosts remain critical of mainstream narratives, emphasizing the importance of genuine innovation and realistic market assessments. This insightful and provocative discussion is a must-listen for anyone interested in the intersection of music, technology, and finance.

00:00 Introduction to Bubble Trouble

01:02 Welcoming Special Guest Mark Mulligan

01:26 Mark Mulligan's Background and Insights

02:34 The Evolution of Music Supply

04:20 The Democratization of Music Creation

06:13 AI and the Future of Music

12:16 Fragmentation and Hyper-Targeting in Media

13:40 The Role of Superstars and Long Tail Creators

19:20 Streaming Platforms: Carnivores vs. Herbivores

25:45 TikTok's Influence on the Music Industry

27:33 Part Two

28:38 Diving into the Music Industry's Hype

30:08 Constructive Criticism in Emerging Technologies

30:39 The Metaverse and NFTs: A Skeptical View

31:28 Frameworks for Assessing New Technologies

33:10 The Future of Digital Fandom

35:15 Bifurcation in the Market

43:07 Pendulum Swings in Technology Adoption

44:54 Lessons from the Aviation Industry

46:29 Final Thoughts and Predictions

52:00 Credits

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Podcasts are having another moment: Trump on Joe Rogan, Kamala on Call Her Daddy. New media is overtaking old media in audience and influence. Back in early 2023, we welcomed guest Lauren Jarvis, who helped bring Rogan to Spotify and growing podcasts into the medium we see today. Given this week’s election mania, we bring Lauren back to make sense of it all.

For more on Bubble Trouble, including transcripts of the show, visit us online at http://bubbletroublepodcast.com

You can learn more about Richard at https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-kramer-16306b2/

More on Will Page at: https://pivotaleconomics.com

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The Podcast Boom: Analyzing Influence and the Future of Media

In this episode of Bubble Trouble, hosts Richard Kramer and Will Page delve into the evolving landscape of the podcast industry with guest Lauren Jarvis. They discuss the resurgence of podcasts as a significant media platform, touching on notable examples like Joe Rogan's recent Trump interview. The conversation also covers the economic potential of podcasts, their role in reaching new audiences, and the gamification of learning as a growing trend in tech. Jarvis shares insights on the integration of technology into daily life and the future of media consumption.

00:00 Introduction to Bubble Trouble

00:59 Part One

02:52 Political Influence of Podcasts

05:26 Audience Engagement and Monetization

09:09 The Future of Media Consumption

22:11 Part Two

22:13 Tech Trends and Predictions

37:46 AI and Data Utilization

46:12 Closing Thoughts and Farewell

48:33 Credits

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Repeat from November, 2023.

For more on Bubble Trouble, including transcripts of the show, visit us online at http://bubbletroublepodcast.com

You can learn more about Richard at https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-kramer-16306b2/

More on Will Page at: https://pivotaleconomics.com

In this episode of Bubble Trouble, hosts Richard Kramer and Will Page engage in an in-depth discussion with Alex Kantrowitz, veteran tech journalist and founder of Big Technology. The discussion provides insights on some of the issues and dilemmas facing Twitter (now called X) under the leadership of Elon Musk. Kantrowitz offers valuable perspectives on the changing dynamics in the tech world, touching on the rise of Reddit, problems with 'Threads', and the impact of new leadership on Twitter's performance and brand value. The conversation also delves into the principle of 'Effective Altruism' prevalent in Silicon Valley and what it signifies about tech leadership. Analysis of recent data reveals Twitter's shrinking user base and engagement, though it remains a highly popular app. The episode wraps with Kantrowitz sharing about his newsletter 'Big Technology', and its recent features.

00:00 Introduction and Welcome

00:46 Part One

00:52 Interview with Tech Journalist Alex Kantrowicz

02:17 Exploring Twitter's History and Business Model

06:52 Twitter's Influence and Impact on Journalism

07:32 The Decline of Traditional Media and the Rise of Digital Platforms

08:45 Twitter's Role in the Attention Economy

09:54 Twitter's Popularity and Influence Despite Declining Numbers

15:06 Analyzing Twitter's User Data and Trends

28:47 Part Two

32:37 The Future of Twitter: Cyclical or Structural Decline?

36:26 Twitter's Competition: Reddit and Threads

36:34 The Struggles of Threads

36:59 The Power of Network Effects

38:17 The Limitations of Threads

39:48 The Rise of Reddit

40:04 The Role of Reddit in the Social Media Landscape

40:54 The Impact of Pocket App on Twitter

41:25 The Irrelevance of Threads and the Power of Meta

44:20 The Challenges Twitter Faces

45:50 Potential Strategies to Save Twitter

49:32 The Future of Twitter Under Musk's Leadership

54:51 The Role of Effective Altruism in Tech Companies

58:57 The Danger of Singular Solutions

59:27 The Value of Comments and the Future of Twitter

01:01:38 Closing Remarks and Promotion of Big Technology

01:02:34 Credits

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The past week has seen US stocks–and gold, btw–rally to record highs. This week, we’re going to apply the magnifying glass to the ‘Magnificent Seven’ that are driving this rally and ask what happens when the sheer size of these US corporations, or corporate value, starts to overtake individual European stock markets. That’s right - any one of these US companies are worth more than British or German capitalism. With an election on the horizon, time to figure out what this all means.

For more on Bubble Trouble, including transcripts of the show, visit us online at http://bubbletroublepodcast.com

You can learn more about Richard at https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-kramer-16306b2/

More on Will Page at: https://pivotaleconomics.com

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Bubble Trouble: Giants of Global Markets and Economic Quandaries

In this episode of Bubble Trouble, Richard Kramer and Will Page explore the dominance of the 'Magnificent Seven' US corporations in the recent stock market rally and their comparison to European markets. They discuss the significant influence of American tech CEOs versus their European counterparts, global lobbying efforts by big tech, and the economic impact of major tech product launches like Apple's iPhone 16 on UK retail sales. The episode analyzes the UK's economic challenges, governmental budget constraints, and tax policy trade-offs, including the freezing of tax thresholds. The hosts delve into the broader societal and economic consequences of media monopolies, infrastructure investments, and the peculiarities of contemporary political landscapes.

00:00

00:00 Introduction

00:55 Part One

01:00 Feedback and OpenAI Discussion

02:41 The Magnificent Seven: US Companies vs. European Markets

04:29 Comparing Market Values

07:26 Future Projections and Power Dynamics

12:50 European Response and Regulatory Challenges

15:49 Investment Strategies and Market Resilience

18:21 Retail Sales and Apple's Influence

19:30 Part Two

19:30 UK's Economic Challenges and Government Budget

22:19 Tax Policies and Fiscal Strategies

30:18 The Impact of Media and Big Tech

35:29 Concluding Thoughts and Audience Engagement

36:49 Credits

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We thought we’d get a little political on this week’s show. Are we serving up a bubble that was a landslide UK election, or is the new government trouble a bubble? And we want to deconstruct Will’s Pessimism Paradox as it applies to the place we most often seen bubbles, in high finance where the less certain the outcomes to higher the markets go.

For more on Bubble Trouble, including transcripts of the show, visit us online at http://bubbletroublepodcast.com

You can learn more about Richard at https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-kramer-16306b2/

More on Will Page at: https://pivotaleconomics.com

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Deconstructing Economic Pessimism in the Wake of a New Government

In this episode of Bubble Trouble, hosts Richard Kramer and Will Page discuss the political and economic landscape in the UK following the first 100 days of a new government. They analyze the concept of political and economic bubbles, questioning whether pessimism dominates current narratives. The discussion spans issues like the impact of the cloud on GDP measurement, tax policies, and the importance of attracting talent over traditional economic metrics. The hosts also delve into the role of economists’ outlooks during different economic conditions. The episode underscores the significance of focusing on new strategies and the long-term impact of political decisions, highlighting the government and economic system's current challenges.

00:00 Introduction to Bubble Trouble

00:44 Part One

00:50 Analyzing the New Government's First 100 Days

03:56 The Pessimism Paradox Explained

14:13 Debating Economic Growth and GDP

18:59 Part Two

19:19 Tax Policies and Economic Challenges

25:23 The Talent Competition and Immigration

28:57 Reflections on Political Labels and Strategy

32:47 Conclusion and Listener Engagement

33:25 Credits

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We always try to flag the smoke signals of mischievous market behaviour that gets society and stock portfolios into trouble. Are we about to get fooled again by the hype and hysteria surrounding the poster child Open AI? Or maybe, just maybe, it’s worth joining us for 30 minutes to find what really sits behind a 150bn valuation and ask whether beauty is in the eye of the beholder?

For more on Bubble Trouble, including transcripts of the show, visit us online at http://bubbletroublepodcast.com

You can learn more about Richard at https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-kramer-16306b2/

More on Will Page at: https://pivotaleconomics.com

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In the latest episode of Bubble Trouble, co-hosts Richard Kramer and Will Page dive into the hype surrounding OpenAI, now valued at $150 billion. They examine the risks of market hype and hysteria behind this soaring valuation, discussing the broader implications for society and the tech industry. The episode explores the nuances of company valuations, comparing public versus private market insights and the lack of transparency in the private sector. With references to past tech bubbles, the hosts analyze the potential conflicts of interest among investors and question the sustainability of current trajectories in tech valuations. As they await the next bubble to burst, Kramer and Page emphasize the importance of scrutinizing underlying business fundamentals in an era of outsized market valuations.

00:00 Introduction

00:49 Part One

01:04 The AI Hype and OpenAI's Valuation

03:25 Understanding Company Valuations

06:32 Public vs Private Market Valuations

10:56 The Transparency Challenge in Tech

15:26 Reflecting on Past Episodes and Lessons

21:12 Part Two

21:49 The Role of Central Banks in Market Bubbles

25:32 Exploring OpenAI's Valuation and Market Dynamics

36:09 Smoke Signals and Future Predictions

43:46 Credits

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This week we speak with Bill Raduchel, who has served as a high-level executive and strategic adviser for organizations such as Sun Microsystems, AOL Time Warner, Xerox, McGraw-Hill, and the Salvation Army. Over half a century working with systems, software, and networks, he has remained at the forefront of the technology revolution in media, education, and corporate governance including recognition at Sun as CIO of the Year and the top CFO in the computer industry and at AOL as CTO of the year. He holds more than fifty issued patents as well as a PhD in econometrics from Harvard, where he taught for five years with John Kenneth Galbraith. He has been writing software in some form since he turned fifteen years old in 1961. He is also the author of The New Technology State. This book is about society—how it has changed and what technology is enabling us to do to ourselves. [Repeat from April, 2024]

For more on Bubble Trouble, including transcripts of the show, visit us online at http://bubbletroublepodcast.com

You can learn more about Richard at https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-kramer-16306b2/

More on Will Page at: https://pivotaleconomics.com

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The New Technology State: Redefining the Tech and Government Landscape

00:00 Welcome to Bubble Trouble: A Skeptical Conversation

00:46 A Journey Through Tech and Economics

06:23 The Evolution of Technology and Its Impact on Economics

08:02 The Writing Process and Insights into Bill's Book

11:21 Exploring the New Technology State and Government Challenges

17:43 The Intricacies of Tech Talent and Government Staffing

19:53 Tech Debt and the Challenges of Modernization

25:55 The Global Tech Landscape: Government and Private Sector Dynamics

25:55 Wrapping Up Part One and Teasing Part Two

25:55 Simplifying UK Government Websites: A Double-Edged Sword

25:55 The Dangers of Centralization and Cybersecurity

26:10 Big Tech, Government, and the Quest for Regulation

27:59 The Talent Gap in Government and Tech Regulation Challenges

29:15 Innovative Solutions andthe Power of Decentralization

30:15 The Role of Startups in Tech Innovation and Employee Motivation

31:59 Google's Management Revolution: Lessons in Innovation

34:45 The Complexities of Regulating Big Tech

40:05 Navigating the Future of AI and Government Regulation

42:19 Economics, Education, and the Future Workforce

44:56 Smoke Signals: Warning Signs in Tech and Regulation

50:06 Credits

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One of the first casualties of the AI race may be lawyers, and that’s where we go this week with Damien Riehl who is at the front line of disrupting the legal profession. Law without lawyers? Really? Are we moving from if to when this tipping point becomes reality.

• Damien's company: https://vlex.com/vincent-ai
• Damien's TED Talk: https://www.ted.com/talks/damien_riehl_why_all_melodies_should_be_free_for_musicians_to_use
• All The Music: https://allthemusic.info/
• All the Patents: http://allthepatents.info/

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You can learn more about Richard at https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-kramer-16306b2/

More on Will Page at: https://pivotaleconomics.com

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The AI Revolution in Law: Disrupting and Democratizing Legal Services

In this episode of Bubble Trouble, hosts Richard Kramer and Will Page delve into the disruptive potential of AI in the legal profession with guest Damien Rio from vLex. The discussion explores the transformative impact of AI on access to legal services, the operational overhaul of legal tasks through large language models, and the future implications for lawyers, courts, and clients. Damien shares insights on his groundbreaking work in automating legal processes, addressing the challenges of legal backlog, and the potential for AI to democratize access to law worldwide. The episode also touches on the impact of AI on litigation strategies, private versus public legal data, and the future landscape of legal arbitration.

00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome

00:44 Part One

00:52 Damien's Background and TED Talk

01:30 Part Two

01:30 Introduction to V Lex

02:30 The Role of AI in Legal Research

03:41 Disrupting the Legal Profession

07:54 Democratizing Access to Law

09:13 Challenges and Opportunities in Legal Tech

17:59 AI's Impact on Legal Disputes

23:58 The Role of Non-Lawyers in Legal Services

25:28 Democratizing Access to Law

25:58 Part Two

26:08 Economic Impacts of Legal Tech

26:59 Jevons Paradox and Legal Work

28:35 AI in the Judicial System

34:55 Global Implications of Legal Tech

38:18 AI's Limitations and Future in Law

46:45 Copyright and Patent Innovations

48:28 Conclusion and Future Prospects

49:12 Credits

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