In our second episode, we welcome Emily Kenway, a social justice researcher, campaigner and author of "Who Cares: The Hidden Crisis of Caregiving, and How We Solve It".

We discuss the importance of defining unpaid care work, how being an unpaid carer can positively shape our personalities, and ways to sustainably incorporate caring into our society. We also discover why women are more likely to become carers, and how important families of choice are in society.

To get in touch, email us at: wearecarers@gmail.com

You can find out more about Emily Kenway here: https://www.emilykenway.com/ and buy her book here: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Who-Cares-Hidden-Crisis-Caregiving/dp/1472288483

For more information on the We Care Campaign, visit us on: https://wecarecampaign.org.uk/ and to find out what being an unpaid carer is really like, read Laura’s blog here: http://numbereighteeninthecorner.blog/my-blogs/

In our very first episode, we welcome the Guardian’s social policy editor Patrick Butler. We discuss his work on covering the carers allowance scandal. How he came across this story, where he sees it going, and how his work has changed his views on caring. We also talk about the UK’s attitude to social care, why carers aren’t heroes, and why it is crucial that carer’s share their story.

To get in touch, email us at wearecarers@gmail.com

Patrick Butler and Josh Halliday can be reached at patrick.butler@guardian.co.uk and josh.halliday@guardian.co.uk

For more information on the We Care Campaign, visit us on: https://wecarecampaign.org.uk/ and to find out what being an unpaid carer is really like, read Laura’s blog here: http://numbereighteeninthecorner.blog/my-blogs/