In this illuminating episode of The Detangled Podcast, hosts Jacqui McIntosh and Louis Driver are joined by industry educator and author Sandra Gittens. With a legacy spanning over three decades, Sandra shares invaluable insights into the evolution of textured hair education, highlighting the historical gaps in Afro hair training and the progress made in raising industry standards. From her experience writing the UK's first dedicated Afro hair curriculum to pushing for inclusive qualifications, Sandra offers a powerful perspective on where the industry has been—and where it needs to go.

Key Topics Covered

• The absence of Afro and textured hair in historical training manuals and qualification standards
• Sandra’s journey in developing the first NVQ units for Afro hair in the UK
• How miseducation impacts client experiences and stylist confidence
• Why inclusive education must be central to all hair training programmes
• A discussion on the cultural significance of Afro hair and why representation matters
• What still needs to change in product development, education, and professional attitudes

Hero Products & Pro Tips

• Sandra emphasises the importance of understanding hair texture and porosity over simply focusing on curl patterns
• Advice for educators: “Embed textured hair into every unit—don't bolt it on.”
• For stylists: Ongoing education is key. “Never stop learning, because textured hair is always evolving.”

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Hosts: Jacqui McIntosh – @jacqui.mcintosh Louis Driver – @louisdoeshair

Guest: Sandra Gittes – @hannahmarciaa

Production Credits

Producers: Louis Driver & Jacqui McIntosh

Recorded at: London Podcast Studios @londonpodcaststudios

Cover Artwork Illustration: Habiba Nabisubi @bibanabi

Cover Design: Louis Driver

Website: www.avloneurope.co.uk