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This episode features interviews with Fire Keeper and former wildland firefighter Joe Gilchrist; ethnobotanist Nancy Turner; grassland ecologist and writer Don Gayton; UBCO professor and Living with Wildfire project lead Mathieu Bourbonnais; and a clip from the Good Fire Podcast of Penticton Indian Band Fire Keeper Pierre Kruger. We discuss histories and legacies of cultural burning, fire suppression, and fire ecology in and around the Okanagan Valley in the southern interior of British Columbia. “Listening to Fire Knowledges in and around the Okanagan Valley” was created by Judith Burr as her master's thesis project in the Digital Arts & Humanities theme of the Interdisciplinary Graduate Studies program at the University of British Columbia Okanagan. This work was supported by UBC-Okanagan’s feminist digital humanities lab, the AMP Lab. This project was also supported in part by the Government of Canada’s New Frontiers in Research Fund (NFRF) through UBC Okanagan’s “Living with Wildfire” Project. This podcast was created on the unceded territory of the Syilx Okanagan Nation.SHOW NOTESThese show notes are approximately in order of mention, rather than alphabetical. See them cited to specific moments of the episode using the episode transcript.The music in this episode is from Blue Dot Sessions, and you can find specific tracks cited in the transcript: https://app.sessions.blue.Opening recording is from a recording of cultural burn on Coldwater Indian Reserve led by Joe Gilchrist and the Salish Fire Keepers Society on May 4, 2022. Joe Gilchrist has represented the Salish Fire Keepers Society in interviews, such as this one with CBC: Ethan Sawyer, “B.C. policy-makers urged to embrace controlled burns to reduce wildfire risk,” CBC News, 12 July 2021, https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/b-c-policy-makers-urged-to-embrace-controlled-burns-to-reduce-wildfire-risk-1.6096930. He has also shared Indigenous fire stewardship knowledge in other projects, including: Shackan Indian Band et al., “Shackan Indian Band Report Executive Summary,” Revitalizing traditional burning: Integrating Indigenous cultural values into wildfire management and climate change adaptation planning (Department of Indigenous Services Canada (DISC) First Nations Adapt Program, 2019), https://www.fness.bc.ca/resources/library/forest-fuel-management/revitalizing-cultural-burning.; Blazing the Trail: Celebrating Indigenous Fire Stewardship (FireSmart Canada, 2020), https://firesmartcanada.ca/product/blazing-the-trail-celebrating-indigenous-fire-stewardship/.Blazing the Trail: Celebrating Indigenous Fire Stewardship (FireSmart Canada, 2020), https://firesmartcanada.ca/product/blazing-the-trail-celebrating-indigenous-fire-stewardship/.Biogeoclimatic Ecosystem Classification Program, https://www.for.gov.bc.ca/hre/becweb/resources/maps/Background.html.Amy Cardinal Christianson and Matthew Kristoff (Hosts), “Indigenous Fire Keepers Workshop in Merritt BC, Canada with Pierre Kruger,” Good Fire, accessed November 5, 2021, https://yourforestpodcast.com/good-fire-podcast/2019/9/2/interior-fire-keepers-worshope-in-merrit-bc-canada-with-pierre-krueger.Tammy Allison and Henry Michel summarized the cultural burning knowledge Elder and Fire Keeper Annie Kruger shared at a 2003 workshop, writing: “Okanagan People, according to Elders, exist in a reciprocal relationship with the land. The land provides all foods, medicines, shelter and material goods needed for survival; in return, Okanagans are responsible to be caretakers of the land…Fire has been a major component of this responsibility for Okanagans… Traditional Okanagan burning practices were regularly maintained until about thirty or forty years ago. Elders speak of forest conditions then that are far different from what we have become accustomed to today…Fire Keepers visited an area on a regular basis to determine the frequency and prescription for burning. Today, only certain families maintain the practice in small confined areas such as on Indian Reserves and, in many cases, even this level of burning has been discouraged. Being a Fire Keeper is a responsibility of life long learning passed down from generation to generation.” Tammy Allison and Henry Michel, “Helping Our Land Heal: A Cultural Perspective on Fire and Forest Restoration,” BC Grasslands: Magazine of the Grasslands Conservation Council of British Columbia, October 2004, https://bcgrasslands.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/2004-fall_bcgrasslands.pdf.; Syilx Okanagan fire stewardship teachings are also mentioned in: Ellen Simmons, “British Columbia’s Indigenous People: The Burning Issue,” Journal of Ecosystems and Management, FORREX Forum for Research and Extension in Natural Resources, 13, no. 2 (2012): 1–2, https://jem-online.org/forrex/index.php/jem/article/download/200/466/2021.I have learned about the work of the Penticton Indian Band (one of eight member communities ...