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Carissa Johnson and Keith Hosey interview Mark Johnson, a long-time powerhouse for change in the disability community. Mark and the Disability Caravan recently visited Carissa at the Murray office of the Center For Accessible Living. He talks about the early days of ADAPT, where the movement is now, and gives ideas for how we can get where we want to be. To learn more about Mark Johnson, visit https://newmobility.com/person-of-the-year-mark-johnson/ Learn more about the Latonya Reeves Freedom Act Visit the ADAPT Virtual Museum https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qANak9Mcc4EUhJeckid9eDDH0VAXttj1/view?usp=sharing" title="Arthur at demonstration credit Tom Olin" /> Learn more about the Disability Caravan Watch the movie, When You Remember Me Thanks to Chris Ankin for use of his song, “Change.” The book "A Celebration of Family: Stories of Parents with Disabilities." is available from Amazon here. Visit Moving Forward, the Advocado Press blog. Send comments and questions to demandanddisrupt@gmail.com Demand and Disrupt is sponsored by the Advocado Press and the Center For Accessible Living. You can find the transcript in the show notes below when they become available. Transcript: Welcome to Demand and Disrupt the Disability Podcast. Here, we will learn to advocate for ourselves and each other. This podcast is supported with funds from the Advocato Press based in Louisville, Connecticut. Thank you for joining us. My name is Kimberly Parsley and I am joined today by Carissa Johnson. You all have heard her before. She's been on the podcast as an interviewee and an interviewer, and that's what she's doing today. She is, she conducted our interview today. So Carissa, tell me who we're going to be hearing from. We are going to listen to Mark Johnson. He is not one of the original 19 of ADAPT, but he joined the organization not long after they started. So he is kind of one of the OGs a little bit, and he's been involved in disability advocacy since the 1970s. You'll hear a lot about what he did with transportation and the city in Atlanta for, that happened right before the ADA was signed and just so many different things. He had a plethora of information. So I was super excited and lucky that I got to ask him to do this. Oh, wow. Okay, great. So tell me, you mentioned ADAPT and we have talked about ADAPT before. So tell us again, what ADAPT is. ADAPT is a disability activist organization. It started as a movement to help individuals fight transportation issues on buses. And Mark will talk about some of that. Once that issue was sort of resolved through the ADA and the civil rights, they have now moved on to home and community-based care and wanting that to be a civil right for folks. So they do things like demonstrations and sit-ins and activism for individuals with disabilities. And they actually do have an online museum. They started in the 70s, so you can see articles and different things that they've done. I would encourage people to check it out and I'm sure we can link it in the show notes. Absolutely. That's exciting. And now we have a chapter of ADAPT here in Kentucky, Keith Hosey, who joins you in the interview. He started the Kentucky chapter of ADAPT and I believe they've already, they've been doing some stuff, right? They have done one demonstration, I believe, and they hope to do more. They got individuals from the national organization to come down and do the training. And as part of the training, I think it was this past year, they actually do a demonstration. So it's more than just sitting in a classroom and here's ADAPT and here's what they do. No, they throw you in the deep end. They are doing an administration right then. So Kentucky does have a chapter now, which I'm really excited about. That is awesome. Mark talked about, I hate to steal his thunder, but I'm a fan girl during this episode. He talked about, you know, how until there's an emotional link, there's not any room for intellectual change and that's what ADAPT tries to appeal to. It tries to appeal to the emotions of folks and you know, it's not like they started not doing their traditional channels of talking to city representatives and state representatives and trying to make the changes that way. They did those things that, you know, sometimes we've seen in our history, it takes more than that and that's what ADAPT does. That's awesome. And you met Mark, how? How did you meet him? I really fell into my meeting with Mark. I got a call from Patricia Puckett. She used to work at a disability independent living center in Florida and she actually retired in Murray. So she and I became friends once she moved here. She donated some stuff to us, we talked on different things, but she says, hey, I have this friend and they're bringing this caravan to Murray and actually they're spending the night with me. She said, this caravan is all about disability justice and history. Would you like to have an event at your office? And I said, heck ...