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Episode Three: The Skinny White Woman
- 2024/07/23
- 再生時間： 59 分
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Daniella Mestyanek Young's book: · From Bookshop.org Uncultured Autograph: Connect with Daniella on social media TikTok, Patreon, Instagram Youtube Connect with Scot Loyd's social media (TikTok) Daniella's other podcast: Hey White Women Episode Summary: Cults and the Culting of America - Episode on The Skinny White Woman in Cults **Episode Title:** The Skinny White Woman in Cults **Hosts:** - **Daniella Mestyanek Young** (Group Behavior Gal) - Scholar of cults, extreme groups, and extremely bad leadership. - **Scot Loyd** - Co-host and commentator. **Introduction:** In this episode, Daniella and Scot dive into the concept of the "skinny white woman" in cults and high-control groups, exploring her role in supporting and legitimizing cult leaders and their coercive control tactics. **Key Topics:** 1. **The Skinny White Woman in Cults:** - Daniella introduces the concept, highlighting examples like Allison Mack in NXIVM and Ghislaine Maxwell with Jeffrey Epstein. - The pattern of skinny white women supporting cult leaders and their role in upholding white supremacy. 2. **Historical and Cultural Context:** - The history of white supremacy and its influence on the perception of purity and ideal womanhood in America. - The policing of women's bodies, especially through clothing, makeup, and hairstyles, within cults and broader society. 3. **Daniella’s Personal Experience:** - Daniella shares her observations from the Children of God cult and the US Army, noting the emphasis on appearance and control. - Her realization of the role she played in upholding certain standards and her decision to rebel against these norms. 4. **The Role of Charismatic Authority:** - Discussion on how cult leaders often place skinny white women, military officers, or celebrities around them to gain legitimacy and distract from their actions. - The enforcement of patriarchal norms by these figures within the group. 5. **Scot’s Perspective from the United Pentecostal Church:** - Scot reflects on his experiences with the church's emphasis on the ideal woman and the spiritual power attributed to women who fit this mold. - The impact of purity culture on both men and women in religious settings. 6. **Control and Manipulation Tactics:** - How cults use control of appearance and emotional manipulation to maintain power over members. - The concept of emotional evocation and its role in cult dynamics. 7. **Breaking Free from Cult Influences:** - Strategies for deconstructing cult programming, such as rejecting purity standards and embracing individuality. - Daniella’s journey of using her platform to educate and advocate against these harmful norms. **Conclusion:** The episode concludes with a call to action for listeners to educate themselves, support anti-racist and feminist causes, and use their voices to challenge oppressive systems. **Call to Action:** - Follow Daniella on social media and support her on Patreon for exclusive content. - Purchase Daniella’s book "Uncultured" to learn more about her experiences and insights into cults and high-control groups. - Like, subscribe, and share the podcast to help spread awareness and gain a broader audience. **Closing Remarks:** Scot thanks Daniella for her insights and contributions to the discussion, encouraging listeners to continue questioning and deconstructing harmful societal norms. --- ### Cleaned-Up Transcript **Daniella (Group Behavior Gal) (00:02.754):** This is the Cults and the Culting of America podcast with scholar of cults, extreme groups, and extremely bad leadership, Daniella Mestyanek Young. I'm your host, Scot. **Daniella (Group Behavior Gal) (00:26.062):** And the Culting of America podcast. My name is Scot Loyd along with my friend, Daniella Mestyanek Young. Daniella, how are you today? **Scot Loyd:** I'm doing great today. Ready to talk about the skinny white woman in cults. **Daniella (Group Behavior Gal):** Yeah, so the last time we were together, we were going down the list that you put together to identify cults and high-control groups. And of course, the charismatic leader was at the top of that list. **Scot Loyd:** Closely related to the charismatic leader is what you refer to as the skinny white woman at his side. So tell us more about how you arrived at this idea of the skinny white woman. **Daniella (Group Behavior Gal):** Yes, absolutely. And I think I'm going to read a little bit from the book that I'm writing. Very exciting, because we've just explained it here. **Daniella (Group Behavior Gal):** All right. Time and again, when an American cult comes to public attention, often because they've crossed some very clear lines and have victims or bodies to show for it, we find very near the cult leader, a skinny white woman pulling some of the strings. When NXIVM was all over the news in 2017 and 2018, and it came to light that ...