Guest Bio: Natalie Hoffman is the author of Is it Me? Making Sense of Your Confusing Marriage: A Christian Woman’s Guide to Hidden Emotional and Spiritual Abuse and All the Scary Little Gods: a Memoir, as well as the host of the Flying Free podcast. She is a mother, grandmother, educator, and passionate advocate for Christian women experiencing emotional and spiritual abuse. Through the Flying Free Sisterhood program, Natalie empowers Christian women to discover and use their God-given voices, gifts, and freedom to make healthy choices for their spiritual, emotional, and physical well-being.

Show Summary: Sometimes an unhealthy relationship may be hard to recognize while we’re in the beginning stages or rationalizing things that hurt us. It can be hard to recognize or make sense of a confusing or hurtful relationship. Natalie Hoffman was in an emotionally and spiritually abusive marriage for 25 years. After trying everything she could to work on her marriage, she decided to get a divorce. Now Natalie teaches women the covert signs of emotional and spiritual abuse. Join hosts, Elisa Morgan and Vivian Mabuni, as they are guided through the signs and symptoms of emotional and spiritual abuse during this very informative episode of God Hears Her. If you or someone you know is in an abusive situation, please call 1-800-799-7233 or visit this website.

Notes and Quotes:

• “Are you safely allowed to just be yourself in the relationship? Without being afraid that there will be repercussions if you show up?” —Natalie Hoffman

• “The egregious nature of spiritual abuse is that it drives a wedge between the survivor and God—her lifeline.” —Natalie Hoffman

• “My religious beliefs are what kept me in that [abusive] relationship for so many years, but my relationship with God is what got me out.” —Natalie Hoffman

• “God was my rescuer—not the church, not my friends, and not my family of origin.” —Natalie Hoffman

• “I listen to my former self—that younger version of myself—and I decided that I was going to be a witness to her pain.” —Natalie Hoffman

Verses:

• Psalm 121:1-2

Links:

• Natalie’s website: https://www.flyingfreenow.com/

• Natalie’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/flyingfreesisterhood/

• God Hears Her website: https://www.godhearsher.org/

• God Hears Her email sign-up: https://www.godhearsher.org/sign-upsfmc

• Subscribe on iTunes! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/god-hears-her-podcast/id1511046507?utm_source=applemusic&utm_medium=godhearsher&utm_campaign=podcast

• Eryn’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/eryneddy/

• Elisa’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elisamorganauthor/

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Guest Bio: Orsika’s childhood was magical. As an adult, her choices were less than amazing. She moved from one failed relationship to another, had three children, and lost direction in life. She felt as though she let everyone down. Having experienced domestic violence, Orsika knew something had to change. She hit rock bottom and clearly understood the years of abuse were going to drastically transform her life for the better. Her healing journey began well after escaping the abuse. Orsika lived through the pain, the shame, and the guilt of making decisions that brought sorrow and potential unforgiveness. She understands, firsthand, the feelings of loneliness and desperation. Orsika also knows the journey to healing is through our Lord and Savior, Jesus.

Show Summary: When we enter into a new relationship, sometimes we get caught up in the joy and excitement and we fail to recognize potential red flags. Orsika Fejer-Baas was in her second marriage when she started to recognize behaviors that hurt her. After a traumatic event, she was able to escape with her children and start her healing journey. Join hosts Eryn Eddy Adkins and Vivian Mabuni as they learn the signs of emotional and financial abuse with Orsika as she shares her story during this God Hears Her conversation. If you or someone you know is in an abusive situation, please call 1-800-799-7233 or visit this website.

Notes and Quotes:

• “Life isn’t perfect, but those are the times when we lean into God more. Those are the times when we cry at His feet and ask for Him to help us through things.” —Orsika Fejer-Baas

• “Through God I found myself, and I wasn’t going to settle for anything less except the best for me.” —Orsika Fejer-Baas

• “There’s a very fine line between, ‘Oh, does this person care for me?”, or “Is this person trying to control me?’” —Orsika Fejer-Baas

• “I never felt like Jesus left me. . . I knew Jesus was there. And now, I’m able to speak more openly because I have that confidence, and I allow the Holy Spirit to work through me.” —Orsika Fejer-Baas

• “If my being open to the Holy Spirit to work through me helps one person, then it’s all worth it.” —Orsika Fejer-Baas

Links:

• God Hears Her website: https://www.godhearsher.org/

• God Hears Her email sign-up: https://www.godhearsher.org/sign-upsfmc

• Subscribe on iTunes! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/god-hears-her-podcast/id1511046507?utm_source=applemusic&utm_medium=godhearsher&utm_campaign=podcast

• Check out Orsika’s Where Ya From? Episode for more of her story: https://whereyafrom.org/

• Eryn’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/eryneddy/

• Elisa’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elisamorganauthor/

• Orsika’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/out.of.the.quicksand/

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