Known affectionately as the mother of animal law, this weeks guest Joyce Tischler has over 45 years of experience advocating for animal rights through the law in the US. Starting off in 1979 by co-founding the Animal Legal Defense Fund where Joyce would serve as executive director for 25 years, we hear about the first cases Joyce worked on as well as her bold decision to take on the US Navy.

Joyce now lectures at the Lewis and Clark Law School in the Centre for Animal Law, specialising in Industrial animal agriculture law teaching students both locally and internationally. We hear from Joyce on some great case study examples of effective campaigning and her decision to switch from circumstantial cases to prioritising cases to develop legal theory.

00:00:00:00 | Intro
00:06:18:06 | Animal Rights in the 1970s
00:10:51:11 | Animal Law and CAFO's
00:13:20:18 | Significance of the meeting in 1981
00:17:38:12 | Early cases
00:27:23:20 | How were the cases picked?
00:34:54:17 | Feelings on leading an organization as a woman in that time
00:38:53:16 | Evolution of Animal Law
00:48:12:12 | Shifting focus over the years
01:01:36:07 | Main goals in Animal Law
01:10:22:10 | Personal preference versus effectiveness
01:23:17:08 | Closing questions

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There are not many people who have spent time in prison for their commitment to help animals, but Tom Harris is one of them. We spoke with Tom about his time in the Stop Huntingdon Animal Cruelty campaign (SHAC), one of the most well-known animal rights campaigns of the last 20-30 years.

We speak about why he thinks the campaign was so effective in applying pressure to companies, things he would do differently, common misconceptions about the SHAC campaign and the importance of grassroots advocacy in the animal rights movement. We also spend a bit of time talking about his future plans for rebuilding the grassroots advocacy scene in the UK so stick around to the end for some exciting plans.

Resources:

• Your Neighbour Kills Puppies: Tom Harris
• SHAC Justice Site - The campaign to have the convictions appealed
• Contact Information
• Email Contact for SHAC Justice

00:00:00:00 | Intro
00:02:14:01 | A recent mistake others can learn from
00:04:46:18 | SHAC (Stop Huntingdon Animal Cruelty)
00:12:02:22 | Lord Sainsbury
00:16:11:20 | Secondary Targeting
00:19:19:18 | Misconceptions about SHAC
00:24:55:18 | Losing local activist groups
00:35:17:05 | Lessons learned from SHAC campaign
00:38:18:09 | Prison sentence
00:46:32:17 | Benefit of focusing on one target
00:54:04:04 | Future work with local groups
01:09:57:05 | The SHAC Justice Campaign
01:19:28:21 | Closing questions

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Jakub Stencel is the recently appointed interim director of Anima International. A refreshingly candid conversation about organisational culture, transparency and its limits, as well as the constant journey of testing and learning that Anima undertakes.

Jakub talks us through his thinking on culture in an expanding organisation, split across multiple countries and how his first important task as interim director is to assess whether Anima International should continue to exist, or, if other organisational structures could save time, resource and increase impact for animals.

Resources:

• Fearless Organisation - Amy Edmondson
• Kirsty Henderson Blog Post
• No Rules Rules – Erin Meyer
• Powerful – Patty McCord
• Swarmwise - Rick Falkvinge
• Culture Map - Erin Meyer
• 80,000 hours podcast
• Anima international Blog
• Keyvan Mostafavi Blog: Fighting animal suffering: beyond the number of animals killed
• Robert Sutton – No Asshole Rule
• The E-myth Revisited
• Anima International

00:00:00:00 | Intro
00:02:00:03 | A recent mistake others can learn from
00:06:30:09 | Early days of Anima International
00:10:39:20 | Work culture and transparency
00:18:10:10 | How has this approach shaped the work at Anima?
00:26:01:09 | Importance of small rituals
00:32:50:23 | Building psychological safety
00:35:45:06 | Hiring process
00:46:23:07 | The transparent leadership transition
00:52:42:18 | Vision for Anima International
01:01:05:08 | Biggest mistake of Anima International
01:13:51:05 | Closing questions

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