Gavin Schall and Alex Wolfe dive deep on why the Knicks had to ultimately let go of their best coach in two decades to win the NBA's ultimate prize.

They discuss the risks inherent in doing so and why it's far from a sure thing they'll ultimately end up in a better place.

They discuss Tom Thibodeau's refusal to step outside his comfort zone in terms of lineup usage and why that ultimately meant the Knicks would never win a title with him, before finishing up by discussing potential candidates for the job and reflecting on what they appreciated about Coach Thibs.

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Well, that was unexpected! Alex goes into the news that the Knicks have fired Tom Thibodeau just days after the Knicks being eliminated from the Eastern Conference Finals. Why did the Knicks do it? Do they have a new coach in mind, like former assistant Johnnie Bryant? And what will Thibs' legacy be with the Knicks?

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Alex and Gavin break down Game 6 of the Eastern Conference FInals, which unfortunately saw the Knicks fall to the Pacers, thus ending their season. The guys talk about lackluster nights from Jalen Brunson and Karl-Anthony Towns, great games from OG ANunoby and Mitchell Robinson, and the overall state of affairs of this team heading into a crucial offseason.

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Alex joined The Manchild Show with Boy Green of The Score 1260 in Syracuse to talk the Knicks' Game 5 win and how they can carry that momentum into Game 6 to possibly force a Game 7 in the Eastern Conference Finals.

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Gavin Schall is joined by Locked On Pacers Host Tony East to preview Game Six including if Indiana can figure out a way to slow down Karl-Anthony Towns, how the Knicks succeded in slowing down Tyrese Haliburton, do any of OG Anunoby, Andrew Nehmhard or Mikal Bridges have a big scoring game in them and predicitions for Game Six.

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Alex Wolfe and Gavin Schall rejoice as the Knicks save their season with a dominant game five win.

The boys break down a monster first quarter for Jalen Brunson, Karl-Anthony Towns relentlessly pressuring the rim despite a bum knee, a heroic Landry Shamet performance off the bench, Mikal Bridges slowly turning the corner, a good night from Tom Thibodeau and much more!

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The Knicks beat the Pacers in Game 5 of the ECFs, 111-94. New York staves off elimination and forces a Game 6 back in Indianapolis Saturday night. Jalen Brunson and Karl Anthony Towns combined to score 56 points. If a Game 7 is needed, it would be Monday night at MSG.

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Can the Knicks come back from the brink and keep their Eastern Conference Finals hopes alive? Alex and Gavin come up with three ways that the Knicks can try to adjust against the Pacers and save their season, including adjusting the rotations, trusting Jalen Brunson more on switches, and trying to reclaim some of the magic of their early-season offense.

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