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Today on More Rosebud Gyles talks to the American actress, singer-songwriter and star of Downton Abbey Elizabeth McGovern. In this conversation they talk about Elizabeth's childhood in a Bohemian and bookish household - first in Illinois and then in Los Angeles. They talk about the formative friendship of her adolescence. They talk about her sudden rise to fame: she was discovered as a teenager and cast in Robert Redford's Oscar-winning debut, Ordinary People; and they talk about the effect of fame on a young person. Gyles and Elizabeth also discuss how she met and married her British film-director husband, Simon Curtis, moved to London and started a family. And they talk about Downton, Elizabeth's music... and much more besides. Thank you, Elizabeth, for this fascinating conversation. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices