Divorce therapist Oona Metz takes us through the ups and downs of marriage, from fighting to making up to ending the relationship to dating after divorce. She tells us why we shouldn’t fight dirty (we all do it, right??), the difference between leaving a relationship and ending a relationship, how to make up in front of kids, and how to know when it’s time to go. Plus, why women get more sleep *after* divorce, and why women wait until midlife to leave! You don’t wanna miss this one!

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Chelsea Clinton would rather focus on the change she wants to see in the world than think about her age. That’s why we thought she’d be a perfect guest as we all count down the hours until Election Day. (I mean, how do we not let this election age us!?) As the author of several children's books, she gives us tips on talking to kids about big topics like abortion and climate change. Plus, what she learned from her mom, Hillary Clinton, about aging, why she doesn’t care much for birthdays, and how she makes time for friends, even if it is just a phone call.

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Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson knew she wanted to sit on the high court since she was a little girl. Now in her midlife, she’s made that dream come true – and she’s the first Black woman to do so. Reshma talks with her friend Justice Jackson about how to stay present while balancing it all: the kids, the marriage and the highest of high-pressure jobs. Literally, if she can manage to do it – it gives us all hope. Plus, we hear about her new love of boxing, why it’s OK to sometimes say no, and how gospel music keeps her going throughout the day.

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