In our previous episodes, we’ve often spoken about the parallels between Business and Politics; be it risk taking abilities, micro vs macro zooming abilities, & most importantly, leadership.

In this episode, we sit down with Christopher Luxon, Prime Minister of New Zealand, to talk about exactly that. We also talk about the challenges of public scrutiny, and how global dynamics translate in today’s world.

If the leaders of tomorrow come from unexpected, and more nuanced places, who should we be looking at next? Could entrepreneurs, artists, business minds be the future of politics?

#NikhilKamath Co-founder of Zerodha, True Beacon and Gruhas

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#ChristopherLuxon Prime Minister of New Zealand

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Timestamps:

00:00 - Introduction

01:19 - PM Christopher on his Experience with India

02:38 - Haka in New Zealand’s Parliament

04:06 - Family & Prioritizing Responsibilities

06:41 - Transition from Business to Politics

09:41 - How Business Skills Affect Politics?

12:39 - Handling with the Highs & Lows

14:10 - PM Christopher on Dealing with Critique & Social Media

16:28 - The Role of Money in Politics

18:57 - Stakeholders vs. Citizens: The Tougher Audience?

20:06 - New Zealand’s Sheep-to-People Ratio

22:01 - Growing Investments & Economy in NZ

23:25 - Parallels in USA & NZ Politics

26:15 - PM Christopher on Meeting Trump

28:45 - Journey of Entrepreneurship to Politics

31:54 - Career Switch from & to Politics

36:12 - PM Christopher on Anticipated Geopolitical Conditions

37:09 - The Ideal Political Future

38:09 - In A World Without Fear

39:40 - Generational Shift in Optimism