Lee Pepper flew in, rerouted his life—and dropped pure gold on this episode of Overcoming Adversity. Amanda Marino dives into Lee’s journey from military service to behavioral health marketing legend, and how his new book Never Outmatched turns battlefield strategies into business and life lessons.

From leadership and AI to war-gaming your business plan, this episode is packed with insight, humor, and heart. Whether you’re in recovery, running a company, or just trying to pivot with purpose—this one’s for you.

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This one’s for anyone who’s ever walked into a networking event and left feeling drained instead of inspired. Amanda and Sarah reflect on the power of curating your circle—choosing real connections over forced conversations, and meaningful collaboration over performative support. From healing through loss to leveling up through masterminds, they’re sharing the uncomfortable truths, the hard-earned wisdom, and the joy of finally owning your voice—even if it comes with pushback. It’s raw, honest, and full of heart.

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What if faith wasn’t something you performed… but something you personally experienced? In this continuation of our heartfelt conversation with Natasha Silver Bell, host Amanda Marino leans into the deeper layers of spiritual curiosity, motherhood, recovery, and learning how to live without guilt or hustle-driven pressure.

Together, they explore what it really looks like to break free from religious trauma, create healthy boundaries, and let go of the fear of "getting it wrong." Whether you’re deconstructing faith, building your next level, or simply seeking peace in your own life—this episode invites you to stop overthinking and start noticing the glimmer moments all around you.

Listen in and let the journey continue.

Next Level Recovery Associates:
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Facebook: Next Level Recovery Associates
LinkedIn: Next Level Recovery Associates
TikTok: @nextlevelrecoveryassoc
YouTube: Next Level Recovery Associates

Amanda Marino:
Instagram: @amandamarinorecovery
Facebook: Amanda Marino, Behavioral Health Consultant and Interventionist
LinkedIn: Amanda Marino
TikTok: @amandamarinorecovery
YouTube: @amandamarinorecovery

Sarah Frias:
Instagram: @sarahefrias