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Recruiting Conversations

Recruiting Conversations

著者: Richard Milligan
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Welcome to the Recruiting Conversations Podcast, a conversation designed to help Recruiting Leaders who manage a team as well as recruit. Richard Milligan is a speaker, author, strategist, and recruiting coach who built 21 teams as a Recruiting Leader.4C Recruiting 2019 マーケティング マーケティング・セールス 経済学
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  • Navigating Non-Competes and Sensitive Transitions Without Losing the Recruit or Your Integrity
    2025/05/20

    What do you do when a recruit suddenly brings up a non-compete, emotional loyalty, or fear around leaving their current role? This is one of the trickiest moments in recruiting, and how you handle it will either build trust or break it.

    In this episode of Recruiting Conversations, I walk through the posture, language, and mindset shifts that will help you navigate sensitive transitions with professionalism and integrity. This isn’t about pushing people over the line, it’s about becoming the kind of leader people feel safe following.

    Episode Breakdown

    [00:00] Introduction – Why most leaders freeze when a recruit mentions a non-compete or emotional hesitation.
    [01:00] Acknowledge the Weight – Before anything else, validate what they’re feeling. Don’t dismiss it.
    [01:30] Lead With Empathy – A simple phrase: “Let’s slow down and walk through this the right way.”
    [02:00] Stay in Your Lane – Don’t give legal advice. Offer to connect them with a trusted attorney.
    [02:30] The Professional Position – Show maturity by prioritizing their well-being over your urgency.
    [03:30] Emotional Loyalty Is Real – Sometimes it’s not legal, it’s personal. Help them reframe it without shame.
    [04:00] Long-Term Perspective – Ask: “Ten years from now, what do you want to be proud of?”
    [05:00] Go Slow to Go Deep – Allow them the time they need. No pressure. Just partnership.
    [05:30] Build the Right Reputation – Integrity attracts. Your brand is built in moments like this.

    Key Takeaways
    • Validate Their Fear – Just because you think it’s minor doesn’t mean it doesn’t feel major to them.

    • Offer Support, Not Solutions – Be a guide, not a legal expert. Connect them to the right help.

    • Honor Their Loyalty – Don’t fight it. Use it as a mirror of their values and a reason to lead them well.

    • Ask Bigger Questions – Help them think long-term. Align the next move with their vision, not their fear.

    • Integrity Is Your Advantage – Leaders who slow down and protect the recruit build brands that attract.

    You don’t need to push to win. You just need to walk with people in the moments that matter. Handle transitions with care, and you won’t just close more recruits, you’ll become a leader worth following.

    Want help building a recruiting process that balances strategy and integrity? Subscribe to my weekly email at 4crecruiting.com or book a session at bookrichardnow.com. Let’s build your brand the right way.

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    7 分
  • How to Pre-Frame Follow-Ups With Value and Stop Feeling Like a Nuisance
    2025/05/13

    We’ve all been there: the first meeting goes great, the recruit leans in, there’s chemistry... then silence. Suddenly, every follow-up feels like you’re annoying them. In this episode of Recruiting Conversations, I break down how to pre-frame your follow-ups with value, so you stop chasing and start leading.

    When done right, follow-up isn’t a disruption, it’s a service. I’ll show you how to turn that awkward “just checking in” into a trusted leadership moment that builds momentum and creates future hires.

    Episode Breakdown

    [00:00] Introduction – The recruiting tension we’ve all felt: great meeting, then ghosted.
    [01:00] Why Follow-Ups Fall Flat – You didn’t set the stage. No frame = no permission.
    [01:30] Pre-Framing the Follow-Up – Plant the seed during the first conversation. Ask if you can share something valuable in the weeks ahead.
    [02:30] Asset #1: Books – Send a thoughtful book with a handwritten note that matches their challenge.
    [03:30] Asset #2: Event Invites – Pre-frame exclusive invites to leadership calls, masterminds, or town halls.
    [04:00] Asset #3: Custom Content – Send a podcast, quote, or framework tied to their specific pain point.
    [04:30] Asset #4: Pure Gratitude – A thank-you note that affirms their leadership plants powerful seeds.
    [05:00] Build a Value Library – Create a system to store and deploy assets: books, podcasts, events, insights.
    [06:00] Final Challenge – Stop winging follow-up. Lead with intentionality, and watch your pipeline warm up fast.

    Key Takeaways
    • Pre-Frame the Next Touchpoint – Get permission early so follow-up feels like service, not pursuit.

    • Lead With Value – Use books, events, and content that reinforce your leadership and build trust.

    • Customize Your Follow-Up – Reference real pain points from the conversation. Show them you listened.

    • Systematize It – Keep a library of resources so you’re never scrambling for the next move.

    • You’re Not a Nuisance – When your follow-up is relevant and intentional, it becomes a leadership moment.

    The best recruiters aren’t chasing. They’re investing. Start pre-framing your follow-ups, and you’ll stop feeling like a salesperson and start being seen as a trusted guide.

    Want help building your follow-up rhythm? Subscribe to my weekly email at 4crecruiting.com or book a strategy session at bookrichardnow.com. Let’s turn your follow-ups into future hires.

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    7 分
  • Using Masterminds and Events to Attract Top Talent Without Sounding Like a Recruiter
    2025/05/06

    Let’s talk about one of the most powerful, and most underused, tools in recruiting: events and masterminds. Not the big splashy hotel-ballroom kind. I’m talking about strategic, intimate gatherings that position you as a leader, not a recruiter.

    In this episode of Recruiting Conversations, I walk you through how to host the kind of experience that attracts high-level talent without ever pitching your opportunity. You’ll learn how to move from chasing candidates to curating conversations that build trust, momentum, and long-term recruiting wins.

    Episode Breakdown

    [00:00] Introduction – The overlooked power of events and masterminds in modern recruiting.
    [01:00] Why Pitches Fall Flat – Top talent doesn’t want another comp plan meeting. They want meaningful conversation.
    [01:30] Step 1: Solve a Real Problem – Create a topic around what producers actually care about: margin compression, referrals, personal brand, burnout, AI tools.
    [02:30] Step 2: Invite Strategically – Avoid salesy language. Use this: “No pitch. Just great conversation with people who are growing.”
    [03:30] Step 3: Facilitate Like a Pro – You don’t need to be the expert. Ask great questions, spotlight others, and guide the room.
    [04:30] The Follow-Up Strategy – After the event, send a resource or personalized note that connects to what they shared.
    [05:00] Real Story – How one client hosted a 6-person breakfast that led to a recruit texting her days later asking for a conversation, without ever mentioning her company.
    [05:30] Final Challenge – Build a mastermind in the next 30 days. Make it meaningful. Let value open the recruiting door.

    Key Takeaways
    • Stop Pitching. Start Curating. – Recruiting isn’t about features. It’s about creating spaces where people want to belong.

    • Solve Real Problems – When you focus on what producers are struggling with, they’ll lean in.

    • Be the Host, Not the Hero – Great facilitators create rooms others want to return to.

    • Recruit Without Recruiting – Share resources. Follow up with intention. Lead the relationship.

    • Events Build Trust at Scale – You’re not chasing people. You’re inviting them into a conversation worth joining.

    If you want to win the top 20%, stop sounding like every other recruiter. Lead something real. Build something valuable. And create rooms where leaders want to sit.

    Want help building your first mastermind or recruiting event? Subscribe to my weekly email at 4crecruiting.com or book a session at bookrichardnow.com. Let’s build something people want to be part of.

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    6 分

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