Alice and Elise are back for another edition of Sole Sisters. This week the focus is the “offseason”, which is the wedge of time for recovery, relaxation and fun (non-running) activities after a key race.

Not going to lie, this episode is slightly manic – the duo go from talking about Alice’s experience with ritualistic burnings under a full Costa Rican moon, to that time Elise ended up in Costa Rica after being deported from a neighbouring country.

In other words, it’s flush with travel stories and off-piste anecdotes, with some good running-focused chats in between, including why it’s so important mentally and physically to give your body a break after a marathon (even if the super shoes trick you into thinking you’re fully recovered).

Alice’s Instagram: @alicebaquie

Elise’s Instagram: @elisebeacom

Run With It: @runwithit.pod

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Intro/outro music by Dan Beacom

Graphic design by Kate Scheer

Vanessa Wilson describes herself as a mum and PE teacher from the outer burbs of Melbourne who likes to run. But Vanessa is seriously downplaying her ability – perhaps because she’s genuinely shocked by how far her running has come.

She’s almost unwittingly just become the 13th fastest Australian woman marathoner of all time, running 2:28:34 at Berlin Marathon this year, which she achieved after breaking her wrist at the 2km mark of the race! This is such an inspiring conversation for anyone chasing big goals while juggling family, work and life. Vanessa's advice: 1. Be consistent; 2. Don't do too much; and 3. Listen to your body.

With a background as a Body Pump instructor and an AFL boundary umpire, Vanessa, 42, had little exposure to the running world until 2017. After the birth of her daughter Anja, she started jogging to regain fitness, encouraged by her husband (and coach) who was a former elite athlete. Her first running goal was to break 25 minutes at Parkrun, which she did sooner than expected. She joined Glenhuntly Athletics Club and had natural speed, finding love for the 1500m and breaking the 5-minute barrier that year. Her Parkrun times continued to come down and by the end of 2018 she had broken 20 minutes.

The foundations for marathon training were built during Covid when Vanessa had time to add more running load, including a long run. She made her marathon debut in 2021, running 2:40:20 at Melbourne Marathon. In 2022, she ran 2:39:52 at Melbourne and set a new Victorian Masters W40 record in the 1500m. In 2023, she made a big breakthrough, running 2:34:36 in Berlin, before bettering her PB with a 2:31:45 in Hannover earlier this year. Watch this space!

-- Vanessa's instagram: @vanessateacherrunner

Run With It instagram: @runwithit.pod

Intro/outro music by Dan Beacom

Graphic design by Kate Scheer

Elise Beacom and Alice Baquie have teamed up for a new fortnightly series called Sole Sisters. Tune in for running insights, sisterhood vibes, life misadventures and many detours along the way.

In episode 1, the duo discuss Alice’s unconventional preparation for Melbourne Marathon. In her debut marathon build up, Alice ran no more than 10km four times per week, with a hell of a lot of pilates, swimming, cycling and surfing in between. Listen in to find out why she took on this challenge, and how it played out on the day. No spoilers, but it involves corded headphones, flat Coke and lots of sister support!

Let us know what you think of the show. And if you have any questions, send them through to @runwithit.pod and we’ll answer them on the next episode.

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Intro/outro music by Dan Beacom

Graphic design by Kate Scheer

Jaryd Clifford experienced one of the cruellest Paralympic Games you could imagine. First, he was disqualified in the 5000m after crossing the line in bronze medal position. To really rub salt in the wounds, he missed out on another bronze in the 1500m by 0.01 of a second. Ouch.

In his first podcast appearance since his Paris heartbreak, Jaryd speaks about what went wrong, the lessons he learnt the hard way and how he’s bouncing back with optimism and excitement for the future. We talk about the positives that can come from experiencing failure and why your inner circle is so important for helping you recover from disappointment. The lessons in resilience that Jaryd shares can honestly be applied to anyone in any situation. This is a must listen!

At the age of 25, Jaryd Clifford has already achieved so much. He’s a world champion, world record holder and three-time Paralympian for Australia in the category for vision impairment across multiple distances. He won two silver medals in the T13 5000m and the T12 marathon, and a bronze in the T13 1500m at the Paralympics in Tokyo. Jaryd is sponsored by Nike, has a Bachelor of Arts in International Relations and Politics/Criminology, and does public speaking in his spare time.

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Jaryd’s Instagram: @jarydclifford

Run With It Instagram: @runwithit.pod

Intro/outro music by Dan Beacom

Graphic design by Kate Scheer

Brit de Groot is the first to admit she’s not great at meditation. Instead, she uses running to quieten her brain. Having discovered the power of running for her own mental health, Brit is sharing the good vibes around. Whether she’s convincing metal musicians to go jogging, fundraising for mental health, or leading Flow State, a run club for women with a focus on mental wellbeing rather than performance, Brit does a hell of a lot for our community.

In this episode we talk about the explosion of run clubs (including our thoughts on the trend towards using them for dating), women’s safety on the run, music, grief, and why Brit so strongly advocates for mental health awareness (TW: women's safety and suicide). I can’t think of a more fitting episode release for World Mental Health Day.

Brit has worked in the music industry for the past 15 years. She started running in 2020, and since then has become entrenched in the Melbourne running community. She finds people are often surprised that she can exist in the two worlds of music and running due to the stereotypes associated with both.

After losing a close friend in early 2021, Brit started her journey into mental health advocacy and awareness, with a particular focus on helping those in the music industry. Flow State Run Club was born in 2022 to create a safe space for women runners.

Flow State meets at the Running Company store in Albert Park at 6pm on Wednesdays. All femme-identifying runners welcome.

Brit’s instagram: @brit_degroot

Flow State: @flow.state.rc

Run 2 Cure Neuroblastoma: Join Hazzy’s team @Run2cureau on 10 November in support of Neuroblastoma Australia.

If this episode has brought anything up for you, reach out to support services in your area. Here are a couple of numbers you can call in Australia:

• Beyond Blue – 1300 22 4636 (open 24/7)
• Lifeline Australia – 13 11 14
• Suicide Call Back Service – 1300 659 467

Claudia Hollingsworth is the kind of person who would excel at anything she put her mind to. The 19-year-old Australian is already an Olympic semi-finalist, World Under-20 silver medallist and Australian Champion in the 800m, and she’s just getting started.

In this conversation, we delve into Claudia’s incredible year, what it’s like to train with On Athletics Club Oceania, and how she’s ready to go all in as a professional athlete (with uni studies on the side). You’ll also hear a few quirky facts about Claudia’s passions off the track (hint: pinecones and dead bugs).

Claudia first captured attention at primary school when she was selected for the Pacific School Games and competed at the National Primary Schools Cross Country. But it was when world 5000m bronze medallist Craig Mottram became her coach that her track-and-field career really started to gain momentum. While still at high school, she earned selection for the 2022 World Athletics Championships in Oregon.

This year in a highly competitive 800m field at the Paris Olympics, Claudia wowed the world with a mature, clinical and confident run that saw her come 2nd in her heat and sail straight through to the semi-finals. Sport has always been part of Claudia’s DNA, having been an avid Australian Rules football player with the East Brighton Vampires and the Sandringham Dragons. Although she considered applying to the AFL Women’s draft, ultimately track and field won her heart. --

Claudia's instagram: @claudiahollingsworth_ Intro/outro music by Dan Beacom Graphic design by Kate Scheer

Ed Goddard is the kind of guy who draws cherry blossoms on his Asics prototype shoes (I know because he showed me on our Zoom call). At 26, the Australian distance runner with a mullet and love of rock and roll has been on the rising star list for a while now.

In this conversation we talk about Ed’s triangle of fun – running, swimming and music (in no particular order), the importance of relishing the little things in life (sandwiches), and how to keep running fun (even when it’s your job). We also speak about broken bones, the stress of hunting Olympic qualifiers, and Ed’s experience with relative energy deficiency in sport.

Ed Goddard is from Mossman, New South Wales. He has a 10,000m PB of 28:23 and a half marathon PB of 62:16, and has his sights set on bringing those times down so he can convert to a faster marathon (current PB of 2:12:52). Ed loves music from bygone eras and has about 800 vinyl records in his collection. If he’s not running with his phone in his hand blasting tunes, he’ll be swimming at the beach or watching the Chicago Cubs. Ed spent a brief stint running for Iona College in New York and has degrees in Property Economics and Sports Communication. --

Ed's Instagram: @edgoddard3k Ed's Strava: https://www.strava.com/pros/26943045

Ed's Spotify playlist: Songs to crash your car to

Run With It Instagram: @runwithit.pod

Intro/outro music by Dan Beacom Graphic design by Kate Scheer

If you have a tattoo bet for Mitch Dyer, he’ll take it on. The sports journalist has forgotten exactly how many tattoo bets he’s lost, but they’ve resulted in everything from a seahorse, to a choice phrase on his butt cheek.

Mitch is the founder of Straight At It, a media company devoted to athletics news and content on social media. This year he’s been reporting at the Olympics and US Olympic Trials for Citius Mag and chasing summer Diamond League races in Europe with photographer Jacob Gower. He’s also shared the commentary box with the likes of legends Bruce McAvaney and Tamsyn Manou. Next up for Mitch? Expanding his social media model to include more sports!

His early days starting Straight At It looked very different. First, he quit his job as a sports reporter with a News Corp newspaper in Mackay and sold most of his possessions to report on athletics as a freelancer in Europe. When he got there, he was sleeping in 8-10 bed dorm rooms, calling in favours from friends and living on the smell of an oily rag.

But he burnt for it, and it burnt him out.

Mitch has some valuable lessons to share from those experiences, from taking time out to eat cheese (not chicken!) twisties, to separating who you are as a person from what you do, there’s laughter and frivolity and wisdom in equal parts in this episode.

Mitch Dyer is an Australian sports journalist, with a focus on broadcasting, social media, hosting events and commentating. He was formerly a carpenter, marketing employee and US college athlete. He is the founder of Straight At It, which is part of the At It network.

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Intro/outro music by Dan Beacom

Graphic design by Kate Scheer