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S107b "We Arrived in the Middle of Nowhere!!!"

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In this powerful follow-up to our transportation mini-series, Curtis Chong joins host Kim Wardlow to unpack the complexities of transportation access for individuals who are blind or have low vision—especially in rural communities. From building meaningful relationships to hiring “biological interfaces” (aka friends and human assistants), Curtis breaks down practical solutions with insight, wit, and experience.
He also addresses persistent issues in rideshare discrimination—particularly for guide dog users—and the limits of current advocacy within companies like Uber and Lyft. Curtis doesn’t just talk policy—he brings it down to the local level, offering actionable advice for anyone who wants to advocate in their town, build relationships with local officials, and contribute as a valued member of their community.
This is an unmissable episode for anyone navigating transportation with vision loss, as well as allies, policymakers, and public transit advocates who want to create a more inclusive world.

⏱️ Chapter Markers:
00:00 – Introduction by Jonathan Price
01:32 – Curtis discusses rural transportation challenges
04:00 – Hiring “biological interfaces” and creative problem-solving
07:10 – Society’s dependence on visual information
09:35 – Aging, low vision, and driving: the emotional transition
11:55 – Issues with on-demand rides and guide dog discrimination
14:23 – Uber’s optional guide dog registration and its limitations
16:52 – Language barriers and the need for better communication with drivers
19:15 – Strategies for being seen, assertiveness in locating your ride
21:30 – Honking horns: the low-tech solution that works
23:59 – Defining independence and managing assistance
26:24 – Real advocacy at the local level: signals, sidewalks, and city hall
28:49 – Building connections: post office relationships and civic engagement
31:11 – Finding and offering value as a blind community member
32:56 – Rethinking transit: big ideas for a better future
35:23 – Wrapping up + Teaser for next week’s episode on family advocacy

📞 Contact Info:
Aftersight
Phone: (720) 712-8856
Email: feedback@aftersight.org
Website: aftersight.org