A little Christmas treat from us to you! Something to get your teeth stuck into while you're wrapping your presents, stuffing your turkey or out for a walk.

You may know that we're OG Yotam Ottolenghi superfans, having both worked at Ottolenghi before we set up our own place, so we've been dying to get him on the podcast since we started. If you don't know the Ottolenghi brand, then you've probably been living under a rock for the last 20 years: they have amazing delis and restaurants in London, era defining cookbook, a weekly recipe column in the Saturday Guardian and regularly contribute to the New York Times.

Today we're joined by Yotam Ottolenghi, Noor Murad and Verena Lochmuller from the Ottolenghi Test Kitchen, another exciting part of the Ottolenghi empire! The Ottolenghi Test Kitchen was founded by Yotam and is headed by Noor Murad alongside a collaborative team of chefs, writers, doers and thinkers. Together they cook, taste, converse and put into writing all the recipes they truly hope will make it onto your tables. We talked about how OTK came into being, what it's like to work in such a collaborative, creative environment, and of course we drooled over their latest cookbook, Extra Good Things.

Pick up a copy of OTK Extra Good Things and OTK Shelf Love for Christmas! Available where all good books are sold.

With thanks to our guests Yotam Ottolenghi, Noor Murad and Verena Lochmuller.

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Producer: Miranda Hinkley

Audio Engineers: John Scott

Theme Tune: Daniel Winshall

Head of Comms: Louisa Cornford

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