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Our guest today is the brilliant – and the ever-curious – Dr. Cecelia Herbert, a Workplace Behavioral Scientist and a Doctor of Organizational Psychology with a career as a practitioner, academic, and consultant that spans more than two decades. After years as a senior leader in Employee Engagement at Google, she joined Qualtrics in 2019 to establish and lead XM Advisory Services in Asia Pacific, partnering with organizations across the globe to design, mature, and grow their experience management programs. As part of the global XM Institute team, Dr Herbert is focused on building a thriving community of Experience Management professionals, who are empowered and inspired to radically improve human experiences.

[03:20s] Her journey into organizational psychology

[09:44s] Organizational psychology key insights

[16:10s] Intersection with EQ

[22:11s] Acceleration of organizational optimization in a post-pandemic world

[30:49s] Human-centric organizational transformation: ‘Often, change is done to people, not with them.’

[46:33s] Evolution of employee experience

[51:28s] RWL: Cecelia’s recommendations of resources from experts like Bob Sutton, Adam Grant and Linda Gratton

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“I’ve spent years studying the brain, but it’s the heart that’s taught me how to lead, heal and grow.” It’s all about our brains on today’s episode! Meet Silvia Damiano, a scientist, author, filmmaker, and lifelong explorer of the brain who has, over two decades, dedicated her work to understanding the inner workings of the mind and the power of emotion. The Argentina-born Silvia is the founder of the About my Brain Institute and creator of the i4 Neuroleader™ Model & Methodology which has been taught around the world and is reshaping the way we think about leadership. Silvia blends her background in neuroscience, education and leadership to help people reconnect with their innate creativity, intuition and sense of purpose.

Silvia’s documentary Make Me A Leader and her books Leadership is Upside Down and Brain-Friendly Leadership have inspired global audiences to rethink success, balance and self-awareness in the modern world. She collaborates closely with her adult children, Relmi and Sacha. Together they’ve recently created two powerful card decks: ‘Heart to Heart Conversations’ and ‘The Elephant in the Room’, designed to spark meaningful dialogue and deepen human connection.

[03:40s] Her journey into neuroscience

[11:51s] On neuro leadership and her work in About my Brain Institute

[21:45s] Top ‘brain-friendly’ leadership practices

[28:28s] On her ‘i4 Neuroleader™ Model assessment

[38:19s] On evolution of neuroscience – the near future

[44:07s] Looking ahead: About my Brain Institute

[46:13s] RWL:

Read ‘Your Brain at Work’ by David Rock;

Read Atomic Habits’ by James Clear

Read ‘Mind-Gut Connection’ by Emeran Mayer

Watch Silvia’s documentary film ‘Make Me A Leader’

Read Silvia’s book ‘Brain-Friendly Leadership’

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Bringing over a decade of experience in Leadership facilitation and coaching, driven by a passion for transformative learning experiences, Linmin (Michelle) Zhang, Founder and MD of IncluSmart, is widely recognized as an accomplished facilitator in DEI with specialized expertise in Strategic Planning, Culture Shaping, Action Planning, and Leadership Transformation. Her company, IncluSmart, inspired by the Chinese pictographic characters of 容锐, represents the idea that an inclusive environment evokes wisdom for both individuals and teams.

With a background as a Global Product Manager in the Medical Equipment Industry at Mindray and GE Healthcare, Michelle leverages her 13 years of corporate experience to serve clients across various industries. Her portfolio spans across sectors and over 20 countries. Her unique approach combines facilitation, coaching, and drama-based role plays, enriching individual leadership development while fostering a sense of belonging among clients’ employees. Her diverse skill set has enabled her to adapt her facilitation style to a variety of settings, including corporate meetings, government learning programs, and organizational development for NGOs.

Michelle holds an MBA degree specializing in Strategic Planning for Leadership in Change Management, along with a medical degree specialized in Anesthesiology. A Certified Professional Facilitator, Michelle also serves on the Board of the International Association of Facilitators (IAF).

[04:41s] From medicine to sales and marketing to facilitation

[13:36s] Pivot into consulting and facilitating

[30:38s] Discovering the world of IAF

[39:09s] On the magic of facilitation #FacPower

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