The Couch to 5K Podcast

In this episode of the Podcast Giovanna Fletcher sits down with the unstoppable Sara Davies MBE, entrepreneur, star of Dragons’ Den and crafter. Couch to 5K has played a significant part in Sara’s life. It didn’t start with a dream of being fit or fast. It began with a warning from her mum that running would give her saggy boobs! But things changed dramatically a few years later, after a visit to the doctor.

Giovanna discovers that Sara’s first taste of running came many years earlier. She and her friend decided to get fit and take part in the Great North Run so that they could arrive at university looking ‘fit and ‘sexy’ with runner’s bodies.

Sara tells Giovanna that six years ago as she filmed her first series of Dragons’ Den, she realised she was overweight, two dress sizes bigger than she should be and without motivation. Seeing herself on national TV persuaded her to do something about it.

She had a medical ‘MOT’ as she knew she had a background of gestational diabetes. The doctor advised her to start running. At first, the thought of committing time in a busy life seemed too much. The doctor prescribed a 5:30am start, Couch to 5K and off she went!

Sara talks about the ups and downs of running as a busy mum and businesswoman. She tells the podcast she uses her runs to clear her head. And whenever work-stress, family-life or any other pressure gets too much, instead of lying in bed worrying, she’ll get out on an early morning run to help her clear her head. As she says, it’s like magic and she always comes back with the answer. Sara talks candidly about juggling life – the guilt of putting herself first, trying to sneak out of the house for an early morning run and always finding room for her trainers when travelling. She even used to run at 05:30am from the hotel to the studio ahead of a 14-hour shoot for Dragons’ Den for BBC TV.

Giovanna teases out her stories from Strictly and Sara reveals that getting to be on Dragons’ Den was a move planned to give her an opportunity to appear on the dance show, which was her life's ambition. She was a female investor and also had 15 years experience presenting on Shopping TV and a friend called-up the BBC to persuade them to give her an audition to become a Dragon.

At 40, she had another body ‘MOT’ as she’d become less fit and was putting on weight. Sara was told she was heading for pre-diabetes and got ‘the kick up the bum’ she needed. The doctor recommended running once more. Sara signed up for the Great North Run and got back to fitness and healthy eating.

Sara’s fantasy run is very close to home in her beloved North East, yet a part of the country she only relatively recently discovered.

This week we have two Couch buddies who’ve sent voice notes to Giovanna:

Adam is 51 and from Wellingborough in Northamptonshire. He tells a remarkable journey of weight-loss. At one stage he was 38 stone. He started Couch to 5K at 21 stone. He now finds himself literally half the man he used to be. Adam had never run before. He’s now moved up through Park Run, 10K, half marathons and in 2025 the London Marathon. Couch, he says, has changed his life. And he loves it.

Ellen is 25. She’s from Hackney in London and had never run before doing the Couch to 5K programme. She found it manageable but hard. Ellen still finds running humbles her. But she’s proud to commit to something she finds difficult. She say running is now part of her personality

FAQ's What is Couch to 5K?

It’s a simple, free running plan for absolute beginners

How do you do Couch to 5K?

Download an app(details below) and away you go!

Can you do Couch to 5K on a treadmill?

Yes, on a treadmill or outside.

How does Couch to 5K work?

You will have a trainer in the app starting you off with a mix of running and walking.

How long does Couch to 5K take?

You’ll be going out 3 times a week for 9 weeks at a pace that feels right for you. You’ll run a little further each week. You can repeat weeks and take longer if you want to.

You can download the NHS Couch to 5K app Apple: https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1082307672?pt=117868640&ct=BBC%20Podcast%20Series%201&mt=8 Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.phe.couchto5K&hl=en_GB&gl=US

Presenter: Giovanna Fletcher Producer: Mark Shardlow Exec Producer: Katherine Hogan

In this episode Dr Alex George shares his inspiring journey from struggles with grief, mental health and weight into fitness and running…and finding joy in life.

Dr Alex is a former A&E doctor who attracted a large social media following after appearing as a contestant on the TV show Love Island. During the pandemic, he became a trusted voice with his insights from the frontline. He’s now an author of four books and has been a Government youth ambassador on mental health.

Alex tells Giovanna about the grief he’s had in his life. In July 2020 his youngest brother Llŷr died by suicide. And whilst a young doctor in Devon, a close friend from medical school died of cancer.

He talks openly about the pivotal moment in his life when he recognised the need for change which led him to become alcohol-free and start an exercise journey which began with gentle walking and moved on to running.

Giovanna discovers just how big the change in his life has been over the last two years. He’s gone from an unfit 20 stone, struggling with mental health, to a runner, gym goer and exercise-lover. Alex reveals that he’s still been in some difficult places but details how the life-changes have helped him to cope and find joy.

He tells Giovanna that he believes running has given him happiness, confidence and resilience but admits it’s not always easy. Alex urges everyone not to lose the joy of running, believing it’s more important to take in nature and have fun than going quickly.

His fantasy run is in a North American National Park – although he shares with Giovanna that he would give anything for one more run along a beach in South Wales with his brother who’s passed away.

He concludes the podcast saying Couch to 5K is one of the greatest health interventions ever. He believes it changes the downward slope of health deterioration moving people into a positive space, where they can see real results.

Our couch buddies on this episode are:

Lynn, who’s 53 and from Derbyshire. She began the programme to help with her health issues which included diabetes and celiac disease. Before starting running she had her worse blood test results ever. But since running, she’s seen a massive positive change in her health markers.

Ray is 61 and from Hampton in London. He had a heart attack and triple by-pass surgery before starting the Couch to 5K programme. He’s had to re-start twice more because of further health issues. But following medical advice, he’s now completed Couch and gone on to run more that 100 Park Runs. Ray says it’s been life changing and he has loved the whole community of support.

What is Couch to 5K?

It’s a simple, free running plan for absolute beginners

How do you do Couch to 5K?

Download an app(details below) and away you go!

Can you do Couch to 5K on a treadmill?

Yes, on a treadmill or outside.

How does Couch to 5K work?

You will have a trainer in the app starting you off with a mix of running and walking.

How long does Couch to 5K take?

You’ll be going out 3 times a week for 9 weeks at a pace that feels right for you. You’ll run a little further each week. You can repeat weeks and take longer if you want to.

You can download the NHS Couch to 5K app Apple: https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1082307672?pt=117868640&ct=BBC%20Podcast%20Series%201&mt=8 Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.phe.couchto5K&hl=en_GB&gl=US

The Couch to 5K Podcast Presenter: Giovanna Fletcher Producer: Mark Shardlow Exec Producer: Katherine Hogan

Strictly’s Jowita Przystal is Giovanna Fletcher’s guest on today’s podcast. She tells how a life-long love of dancing has now been joined by a complete love of running.

Jowita started dancing as a little girl in Poland. Giovanna discovers that she loved all forms of dance…except ballroom. Eventually, encouraged by her mother, Jowita took to it, started competing and took the path to becoming a professional.

Her ambition was to become a professional on the BBC’s Strictly Come Dancing. And she left her homeland with a one-way ticket, no job, just a suitcase and a determination to get her place on the TV programme. She discovered that doing well on The Greatest Dancer was going to be the best way of achieving her goal. She got on the programme and won it in 2020 which won her a guest spot on Strictly. A year later, she was offered a place on the hit show. And in her first series claimed the Glitter Ball Trophy.

Jowita’s running journey has not been so straight forward. When she first tried it, her dancing fitness coach told her she couldn’t run because she was heavy-footed. It put her off!

She started running again to take part in the Great Manchester Run in 2025. She wanted to do something to raise money for the Dogs Trust Charity after visiting it with her Strictly Partner Pete Wicks, an Ambassador for the Charity. After her bad experience before, she sought advice on what to do, bought herself some running shoes and after a jog along a beach found she was loving running.

However, just 2 weeks before the Run, Jowita injured her ankle which she feared could mean not only missing the race but might also impact her dancing career. She tried a number of remedies as she was desperate to take part. The night before the event, she went on her own fitness test before deciding she was fit. The following day Jowita beat her best time by 9 minutes!

Jowita’s fantasy run is somewhere hot by the sea. And her favourite track is something of a classic from Depeche Mode.

We also hear from 2 couch buddies who are part of the UK Couch to 5K community.

Simon is 36 from Oxford and decided to get fit to improve his health. He’s found it to be something that helps with his mindfulness and finding peace. He now writes about it and encourages others to sign-up.

Christine is 27 and from Liverpool, living in Edinburgh. She began the programme because she was embarrassed at her lack of fitness. She says it’s built-up her confidence to the point that she’s a different person. It’s improved her mood, sleep and eating habits. She’s still running 2-3 times a week and her one regret is not starting it sooner.

Thanks for listening!

What is Couch to 5K?

It’s a simple, free running plan for absolute beginners

How do you do Couch to 5K?

Download an app(details below) and away you go!

Can you do Couch to 5K on a treadmill?

Yes, on a treadmill or outside.

How does Couch to 5K work?

You will have a trainer in the app starting you off with a mix of running and walking.

How long does Couch to 5K take?

You’ll be going out 3 times a week for 9 weeks at a pace that feels right for you. You’ll run a little further each week. You can repeat weeks and take longer if you want to.

You can download the NHS Couch to 5K app Apple: https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1082307672?pt=117868640&ct=BBC%20Podcast%20Series%201&mt=8 Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.phe.couchto5K&hl=en_GB&gl=US

The Couch to 5K Podcast Presenter: Giovanna Fletcher Producer: Mark Shardlow Exec Producer: Katherine Hogan