Mark introduces the topic of disingenuous people. Both guys have had recent experiences with people who were being disingenuous. Mark asks whether he thinks people are born this way or do become this way based on environment or circumstance.

Jim says he’s been using that word more often lately

Mark reads the legal definition of the word

Jim shares his definition. He clarifies the nuance of this activity being intentional

Mark says there are different levels of it, but that some people are just stupid

Jim shares his recent encounter with a disingenuous neighbor

Deception from the get go. Jim says this guy isn’t dumb…he’s just a dick

Mark shares something he used to tell his kids to help them get to the truth. “Look at what people do and then what they say. When those are the same, you’ll find truth”

Mark brings up his ex wife as an example

Then the guys bring up justice

Jim…”it’s not what you say, it’s what you do”.

His neighbor said, “I thought we were friends? Mark reacts aggressively to that behavior

Jim says this guy was many things…deceptive, delusional and dishonest. He took the high road even as this guy dug his hole deeper, but he did tell him “you might want to get back on your meds”

Mark loves that line

Jim decided to let the guy keep revealing himself, but he continued to hold him accountable

Mark thinks people who pretend to be dumb might be worse and he alludes to our current political landscape

Mark brings up the trend of not asking follow-up questions. Then the guys go to Trump as an example and talk about his behavior. Also the contrast between Biden and Trump. Mark recognizes that many people feel Trump is a liar. Mark calls him an embellisher. A master embellisher who does so with a very specific intention to move people

Mark says disingenuous people behave in 3 distinct ways. Raise their voice, change the topic or walkaway. People who are genuine will welcome follow-up questions

Jim shares more words that he looked up based on this experience

Cowards, clowns and characters

Both guys feel that there are a lot of cowards in the world. Jim asks him to read the definition of coward

Mark shares his frustration with people who are afraid to speak up about problems at work

Jim is a big fan of his AI tool - Gemini. They joke about “her”

Mark says Biden is also a clown. He reads the definition and they laugh about how clownish Biden is

Mark talks about doing nothing. Either not taking a stance or watching bad things happen and not interveneing

Jim talks about the Biden group and the lack of integrity

Jim asks Mark…how can you tell what the truth is

Mark brings up Bernie Sanders and gives him credit for speaking from the heart. He doesn’t use notes

Jim shares his thoughts about Kamala Harris and Mark replies with more Trump authenticity and how good he is at holding people accountable Both guys speak highly of Trumps cabinet members

Jim says “news does not get reported it gets created”. Jim shares a story about a high school football coach who got run out because of a bullshit race issue. When the reporters came, she couldn’t get anyone to bite on race…so they didn’t run the story. They spent all the time and money wasted because they couldn’t create the story they wanted

Mark shares how he watches both sides of the news every so often just to see how the left is distorting. He says this in the context of his girlfriend’s kids. They watch channels that distort facts

Characters - Mark reads the definition

Jim thinks the media is now full of characters. Putting on the show

Jim asks about justice. Will we get any. He has stopped waiting

Mark feels that he needs to leave this alone. It’s affecting his mental health

Jim believes in Karma