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In this episode of the Kirk & Kurtts Design Podcast, Kirk and Andy chat with Sam Fagan, a "Swiss Army knife" of digital design and development. Sam’s skill set spans website design, HTML/CSS coding, WordPress development, project management, and copywriting. Beyond her technical expertise, she’s dedicated to helping small businesses and nonprofits turn customers into passionate fans by creating strategic, engaging digital experiences.

Sam shares her journey from New York to Arkansas, tracing her path through various roles that shaped her expertise, resilience, and love for storytelling.

The discussion dives deep into mentorship. Sam reflects on her own challenges finding guidance early in her career and her commitment to now mentor others. Kirk and Andy emphasize the importance of mentorship within creative industries, noting the need for role models who understand both creative and business perspectives.

Packed with humor, wisdom, and advice, this episode offers insights for anyone navigating design, development, or digital branding. Tune in to learn how embracing curiosity and storytelling can transform your work—and your approach to life.

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https://www.linkedin.com/in/samanthafagan/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/samanthafagan/

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About Kirk and Andy.

Kirk Visola is the Creative Director and Founder of MIND THE FONT™. He brings over 20 years of CPG experience to the packaging and branding design space, and understands how shelf aesthetics can make an impact for established and emerging brands. Check out their work http://www.mindthefont.com.

Andy Kurts is the Creative Director and Founder of Buttermilk Creative. He loves a good coffee in the morning and a good bourbon at night. When he’s not working on packaging design he’s running in the backyard with his family. Check out Buttermilk's work http://www.buttermilkcreative.com.

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Kicking off Season 4 of the K+K show!!!

In this episode we welcome Fred Hart, a dynamic designer, strategist, and sneaker aficionado who recently went on his own after nine years at the helm of Interact. Fresh off a major life transition and celebrating his child's first birthday, Fred sits down with Kirk and Andy K, to dive into a conversation packed with creativity, culture, and career reflections.

Fred’s journey into design started with a love for sneakers and basketball, growing up in Hawaii and inspired by the likes of Jordan, Garnett, and Iverson. From sneaker sketches in notebooks to studying architecture, visual communications, and eventually finding his niche in packaging design, Fred shares how his passion evolved into a flourishing career. The episode is peppered with sneaker talk, from favorite Reebok and Nike designs to the cultural impact of footwear on art and identity.

The conversation also touches on the challenges and joys of navigating the creative world. Fred, with his wealth of experience, discusses how building strong relationships with clients can make all the difference in design projects. He reflects on the strategic side of design—understanding what clients need beyond just visuals—and how aligning design with business objectives is crucial for success. Kirk and Andy add their own perspectives on the design industry, from working with challenging clients to developing genuine business relationships built on mutual respect and trust.

This episode is more than just design talk; it’s about life, relationships, and how design connects to larger business challenges. Fred emphasizes the importance of staying authentic to oneself while understanding the client’s world and how a strategy-led approach to design can be a game-changer.

Listen in as Fred Hart drops insights on creativity, business strategy, and the journey from sneakers to brand strategy. Get ready for laughs, deep dives, and a refreshing take on what it means to truly love what you do.

Connect with Fred here:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/fredwhart/

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About Kirk and Andy.

Kirk Visola is the Creative Director and Founder of MIND THE FONT™. He brings over 20 years of CPG experience to the packaging and branding design space, and understands how shelf aesthetics can make an impact for established and emerging brands. Check out their work http://www.mindthefont.com.

Andy Kurts is the Creative Director and Founder of Buttermilk Creative. He loves a good coffee in the morning and a good bourbon at night. When he’s not working on packaging design he’s running in the backyard with his family. Check out Buttermilk's work http://www.buttermilkcreative.com.

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Join hosts Kirk Visola, founder of Mind the Font, and Andy Kurtts, founder of Buttermilk Creative, sit down with barcode enthusiast Amber Walls from GS1 US. Amber dives into the fascinating world of barcodes, discussing their vital role in retail, packaging, and supply chains.

Amber shares her unique journey into the world of barcodes, starting at a Cornhole game during a digital coupon conference — because who knew Cornhole could lead to a career in barcodes? Amber explains her role at GS1 US, where she works with businesses worldwide to streamline identification and barcode technologies. She also shares quirky anecdotes about her personal collection of barcode-themed items, even joking about barcode tattoos!

Listeners are taken on a journey through the history and future of barcodes. Amber talks about how barcode technology has evolved from the 1960s and 1970s to today, remaining an essential part of modern retail. Whether you’re shopping in a store or ordering online, barcodes play a critical part in everything that goes on the shelf. The trio also touches on how barcodes will continue to impact industries, with a particular focus on 2D scanning technology and the future potential of QR codes.

Amber’s passion shines through when she reveals her admiration for the early innovators of barcode technology, comparing them to the founding fathers of the system we rely on today. The episode wraps up with discussions on the technical aspects of barcodes, the importance of UPCs (Universal Product Codes), and some fun insights into how packaging design and barcodes come together in real-world applications. Kirk and Andy chime in with their own experiences dealing with barcode creation for their clients, adding a practical perspective to the conversation.

Whether you’re a design pro, a tech enthusiast, or just someone who’s curious about the little black-and-white lines on everything you buy, this episode delivers a perfect blend of humor, insight, and technical expertise.

Tune in for a deep dive into the world of barcodes and stay for the laughs as Kirk, Andy, and Amber decode the hidden complexities behind the everyday technology that keeps retail running smoothly.

Connect with Amber here:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/amber-walls-94594b1ab/

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About Kirk and Andy.

Kirk Visola is the Creative Director and Founder of MIND THE FONT™. He brings over 20 years of CPG experience to the packaging and branding design space, and understands how shelf aesthetics can make an impact for established and emerging brands. Check out their work http://www.mindthefont.com.

Andy Kurts is the Creative Director and Founder of Buttermilk Creative. He loves a good coffee in the morning and a good bourbon at night. When he’s not working on packaging design he’s running in the backyard with his family. Check out Buttermilk's work http://www.buttermilkcreative.com.

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In this episode, hosts Kirk Visola and Andy Kurtts dive into the world of brand strategy and innovation with special guests Rifle Hughes and Glenn Pappalardo from Integral CPG, highlighting the importance of creativity, strategy, and collaboration in building successful brands.

Rifle and Glenn share their journey from their days at JPG, where they met and began collaborating on projects, to founding Integral CPG—a brand strategy powerhouse dedicated to helping companies innovate and thrive in competitive markets. They explore the nuances of balancing creative vision with process structure, emphasizing that the best ideas often come from cross-functional collaboration. Hear how they guide companies through the delicate dance of managing brand innovation, from ideation to execution, ensuring every team member contributes to the creative process.

The discussion moves into practical advice on fostering a creative environment within organizations, breaking down silos, and integrating various departments early in the strategy process to generate better ideas and reduce risks. Kirk and Andy add their insights on the challenges and rewards of managing creative projects and the need for strong strategies behind great designs.

Listeners will gain valuable insights into the mindset needed to drive innovation, the role of brand strategy in successful product development, and how to navigate the complex landscape of creativity in business. Whether you're an entrepreneur, designer, or marketer, this episode is packed with wisdom and laughter that will inspire and inform your approach to brand building.

Tune in to discover the secrets of creativity, collaboration, and strategic thinking with two of the industry's brightest minds. Don’t miss this engaging and insightful conversation that’s both fun and packed with actionable takeaways!

Learn more about Integral CPG here:
https://www.integralcpg.com/

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https://www.linkedin.com/in/riflehughes/

Connect with Glenn here:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/glenn-pappalardo/

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About Kirk and Andy.

Kirk Visola is the Creative Director and Founder of MIND THE FONT™. He brings over 20 years of CPG experience to the packaging and branding design space, and understands how shelf aesthetics can make an impact for established and emerging brands. Check out their work http://www.mindthefont.com.

Andy Kurts is the Creative Director and Founder of Buttermilk Creative. He loves a good coffee in the morning and a good bourbon at night. When he’s not working on packaging design he’s running in the backyard with his family. Check out Buttermilk's work http://www.buttermilkcreative.com.

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In this special episode of the Kirk and Kurtz Design Podcast, Kirk Visola and Andy Kurtts welcome the incredibly talented Craig Steckbeck, a creative powerhouse with nearly two decades of experience in the design industry. As the founder and creative director of Mind the Font, Kirk sets the stage with his signature enthusiasm, introducing Craig, a designer whose mission is to elevate the creative bar, not just for his team, but for clients and vendors alike.

Craig’s journey in the design world is nothing short of inspiring. From crafting memorable brands to turning abstract ideas into appealing products, Craig has built a reputation for solving creative challenges with both big-picture strategies and meticulous attention to detail. Whether he’s working with startup brands through Austin’s SKU program or applying his talents to tech companies and local businesses, Craig’s passion for design shines through in everything he does.

Join Kirk, Andy, and Craig as they dive into Craig's origin story—from his early days in design school, where he found his true calling, to the vibrant creative community of Austin, Texas. Craig shares his unique process, how he tackles design projects from initial concepts to final execution, and the importance of empathy in design—a value he holds dear in his work.

But it’s not all business! The conversation flows freely as the trio discusses everything from the impact of mentors in shaping their careers to the quirky encounters that lead to lifelong connections. And, of course, there’s plenty of humor and candid moments that make this episode a true reflection of the Kirk and Kurtz vibe.

Whether you’re a seasoned designer, an aspiring creative, or just someone who loves a good story, this episode offers valuable insights, plenty of laughs, and a deep dive into the creative minds that shape the world of design.

Show Highlights:
- Craig’s journey from design school to becoming a creative director
- The role of empathy in design and why it’s crucial for success
- Insights into the SKU mentoring program and its impact on startup brands
- How creative processes differ across industries and project types
- Fun anecdotes about the unexpected connections that make the design world so unique

Connect with Craig here:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/craig-steckbeck-364636144/

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About Kirk and Andy.

Kirk Visola is the Creative Director and Founder of MIND THE FONT™. He brings over 20 years of CPG experience to the packaging and branding design space, and understands how shelf aesthetics can make an impact for established and emerging brands. Check out their work http://www.mindthefont.com.

Andy Kurts is the Creative Director and Founder of Buttermilk Creative. He loves a good coffee in the morning and a good bourbon at night. When he’s not working on packaging design he’s running in the backyard with his family. Check out Buttermilk's work http://www.buttermilkcreative.com.

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Join Kirk Visola, founder and creative director of Mind the Font, and Andy Kurtts, founder and creative director of Buttermilk Creative, as they dive into the fascinating world of consumer research with their guest, Rich Moniz.

Rich Moniz, founder of Rich Insights, brings over a decade of experience in the research industry. His company helps brands understand their shoppers through advanced techniques like eye tracking, facial coding, and other neuro and emotive methodologies. Rich's mission is to make brands stand out while fostering a stronger planet for future generations.

Rich explains how his methods provide a deeper dive into the minds of consumers, helping brands improve product perception and shelf presence. From discussing the nuances of eye tracking to sharing insights on demographic influences in consumer behavior, Rich provides a wealth of knowledge that can help any brand improve its market strategy.

The conversation delves into:
- The role of eye tracking and other advanced research techniques in understanding consumer behavior.
- How physical differences and distractions influence shopper eye patterns.
- The importance of demographic considerations in product marketing.
- Practical advice for brands on improving shelf presence and product appeal.
- Real-world examples of how eye tracking data has informed successful packaging redesigns.

Kirk and Andy share their experiences and insights on packaging design, discussing the balance between creativity and data-driven decisions. They explore the significance of standing out on the shelf and the critical elements that capture consumer attention within seconds.

**Key Takeaways:**
- Eye tracking provides an unfiltered view of what catches a consumer's attention.
- Physical factors like height can significantly impact what products shoppers notice.
- Demographic insights are essential but must be coupled with observational data for accurate targeting.
- Overloading packaging with too many claims can dilute the impact of the most crucial messages.
- Smaller brands can now access sophisticated research tools online, leveling the playing field with larger competitors.

Don't miss this opportunity to learn from one of the industry's leading experts and discover how you can apply these insights to your brand.

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About Kirk and Andy.

Kirk Visola is the Creative Director and Founder of MIND THE FONT™. He brings over 20 years of CPG experience to the packaging and branding design space, and understands how shelf aesthetics can make an impact for established and emerging brands. Check out their work http://www.mindthefont.com.

Andy Kurts is the Creative Director and Founder of Buttermilk Creative. He loves a good coffee in the morning and a good bourbon at night. When he’s not working on packaging design he’s running in the backyard with his family. Check out Buttermilk's work http://www.buttermilkcreative.com.

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Join Kirk and Andy as they welcome the incredibly talented Manuel Martinez. Manuel, an extraordinary illustrator, artist, and concept developer, shares his journey from an academic path to becoming a renowned comic artist. Known for his intricate storytelling and dynamic artwork, Manuel talks about his inspirations, challenges, and the evolution of his artistic career.

In this lively and candid conversation, Kirk and Andy dive into Manuel's creative process, his experiences with editors, and the influence of mentors who guided him towards his true passion. The episode is filled with fascinating anecdotes, including Manuel's first encounter with the comic Daredevil 208 and the pivotal moments that shaped his career.

View Manuel's work here:
https://www.manuelmartinezart.com/ https://www.manuelmartinezart.com/

Connect with Manuel here:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/manuel-martinez-11558625/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/manuel-martinez-11558625/

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About Kirk and Andy.

Kirk Visola is the Creative Director and Founder of MIND THE FONT™. He brings over 20 years of CPG experience to the packaging and branding design space, and understands how shelf aesthetics can make an impact for established and emerging brands. Check out their work http://www.mindthefont.com.

Andy Kurts is the Creative Director and Founder of Buttermilk Creative. He loves a good coffee in the morning and a good bourbon at night. When he’s not working on packaging design he’s running in the backyard with his family. Check out Buttermilk's work http://www.buttermilkcreative.com.

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In this episode, Kirk and Andy welcome the multi-talented Vic Lee. Vic shares his incredible journey from a successful graphic designer to a renowned mural artist and storyteller. Hear about his creative process, the impact of life experiences, including a close brush with death, and his innovative travel-inspired artworks. Vic’s humor shines through as he discusses his stand-up comedy and unique lettering style. This episode is a blend of inspiration, humor, and heartfelt moments, offering valuable insights into the world of design and personal growth.

Connect with Vic:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/vicleelondon/

View Vic's work:
https://viclee.co.uk/viclee.co.uk/Vic_Lee.html

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About Kirk and Andy.

Kirk Visola is the Creative Director and Founder of MIND THE FONT™. He brings over 20 years of CPG experience to the packaging and branding design space, and understands how shelf aesthetics can make an impact for established and emerging brands. Check out their work http://www.mindthefont.com.

Andy Kurts is the Creative Director and Founder of Buttermilk Creative. He loves a good coffee in the morning and a good bourbon at night. When he’s not working on packaging design he’s running in the backyard with his family. Check out Buttermilk's work http://www.buttermilkcreative.com.

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