Welcome to Total Value Unlocked a podcast from Hivemind where we explore the technologies and ideas shaping the future of the internet and money, and how we unlock their potential. Hosted by, Matt Zhang, Founder of Hivemind, this season, we're focusing on the backbone of web3: blockchain protocols.

Today we speak with John Wu, President of Ava Labs, who shares his perspective on Avalanche’s modular design, the rise of tokenized assets, and impact of the upcoming Avalanche 9000 upgrade.

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Time Stamps:

2:10 John's background and the interplay between finance and technology industries

3:19 What was missing from traditional finance that Blockchain can fix?

4:26 What lead John to Ava Labs and what first stood out to him?

7:33 What had Avalanche's Journey looked like so far - what has lead to it's success?

10:17 Monolithic vs Modular

11:45 How does Avalanche's infrastructure influence the type of apps being built on Avalanche

13:47 Work with institutions and the RWA/Stablecoin space

15:48 Avalanche 9000

16:47 Key Challenges Avalanche 9000 sets out to solve

17:42 Avalanche Summit

20:00 Ava Labs Role & Building the Ecosystem for Developers

22:37 Subnets vs Mainchain

24:06 Blockchain and Gaming - Building a Social Fabric

26:47 Avalanche in context of broader ecosystem

28:34 Ironic Tribalism

32:16 Advice for builders and entrepreneurs in the space

27:00 Taking Blockchain Mainstream

39:30 Biggest Milestone for Avalanche looking ahead

40:12 Johns Boldest Prediction

41:22 Matt's Boldest Prediction

44:50 What happens to money in an AI economy

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