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Joe Sullivan, former CISO of Uber and Facebook, shares his journey in the IT and security industry and discusses the evolving relationship between the public and private sectors in cybersecurity. He highlights the need for collaboration and communication between government agencies and tech companies to improve cybersecurity practices. Joe also emphasizes the importance of CISOs having a voice in policymaking and investing in tools that facilitate incident response and coordination across departments. He encourages the security community to continue innovating and finding ways to protect customers and navigate the changing regulatory landscape. The conversation covers topics such as cybersecurity standards, the need for a clear and objective minimum bar, the role of the security leader, the importance of cross-functional collaboration, the evolving role of CISOs, and the challenges they face. It also touches on the need for better communication, incident response preparedness, and educating the wider team about cybersecurity. The conversation concludes with a discussion about the importance of protecting digital risks and the role of CISOs in addressing them. Takeaways • Collaboration and communication between government agencies and tech companies are crucial for improving cybersecurity practices. • CISOs need to have a voice in policymaking and provide feedback on regulations to ensure their perspectives are considered. • Investing in tools that facilitate incident response and coordination across departments is essential for effective cybersecurity management. • The security community should continue innovating and finding ways to protect customers and navigate the changing regulatory landscape. There is a need for a clear and objective minimum bar for cybersecurity standards. • The role of the security leader is evolving to include responsibilities beyond cybersecurity. • Cross-functional collaboration is crucial for effective cybersecurity. • CISOs need to educate the wider team about cybersecurity and the importance of their involvement. • Incident response preparedness is essential, as it is likely that organizations will face a cybersecurity incident at some point. • CISOs should take a proactive approach to address digital risks and protect the organization. • The cybersecurity community needs to come together and support each other in the fight against cyber threats. Follow & Subscribe on all Podcast platforms. link.chtbl.com/XIW5zsAn What is the Zero Trust Forum about? It’s about empowering zero trust security professionals with strategies, architecture, and real world journeys to secure the digital future, the right way! Follow the Zero Trust Forum on LinkedIn www.linkedin.com/company/zero-trust-forum/. Follow Jaye Tillson on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/jaye-tillson/ Follow John Spiegel on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/john-spiegel-2011543/