In this episode, Marko Pfann sits down with Blair Enns, founder of winwithoutpitching.com, to discuss his latest book, The Four Conversations: A New Model for Selling Expertise. Together, they explore the importance of structuring your sales process and dive into exclusive insights from Blair that didn’t make it into the book. This is a must-watch for anyone looking to elevate their approach to selling expertise—don’t miss it!

In this episode, Marko Pfann chats with Ben Tallon, a multidisciplinary artist, illustrator, and writer, about the magic of creativity and trusting your instincts. They dive into the value of journaling, finding your authentic voice, and how creative breakthroughs often emerge from embracing unpredictability. Ben shares his journey from art school to becoming a published author and coach, revealing how he balances passion with life’s pressures. This inspiring conversation is packed with insights for creatives navigating the challenges of modern artistry in an AI-driven world.

We discuss the bold decisions and strategies that propelled MvsM to the top of the industry from the very beginning. But it wasn’t always smooth sailing. Discover how they defied conventional wisdom, took calculated risks, dealt with burnout, and still managed to build a world-class brand.