In the latest episode of Watching Paint Dry, Emma sits down for a chat with Naomi and Natalie Evans of online anti-racism platform, Everyday Racism.
The duo shine a light on important topics such as diversity and inequality within interiors, if certain interior design styles can stem from racism, and how their own heritage has shaped each of their homes respectively. The episode aims to offer tangible advice for those looking to help make the interiors world more accessible, while also helping to empower the next generation.
Follow Naomi and Natalie over at Everyday Racism, and buy their book 'The Mixed Race Experience' to support their work.

In this episode of Watching Paint Dry, host Emma Jane Palin chats with vintage homeware store owner, Marie Pontefract. Marie set up Albie & Pearl after nearly 20 years of working as a womenswear designer. Having become dismayed at the amount of waste created within the industry, she now curates joyful collections of vintage homewares, art and lighting, whilst having as little impact on the planet as possible.
Topics covered in this 30-minute chat include leaving London (and her high-profile job) for a slower life at sea, the joys of vintage sourcing and the importance of sustainability, the return of the high street, and how she juggles her small business and her family life.
Follow Marie's journey over on Instagram, and shop her curated vintage wares over at Albie and Pearl.

Kicking off season one of Watching Paint Dry, upholsterer, designer and founder of Margate Design Collective, Jesse du Preez speaks to host Emma Jane Palin about their journey post-Interior Design Masters. After discussing what they discovered from their journey on the BBC television show, we delved into creating spaces for the LGBTQ+ community, how neurodivergence has shaped a career in upholstery and why it's so important for a home to feel safe and welcoming.

Follow Jesse's design journey over on Instagram, visit their bar CAMP in Margate, or sign up for a workshop at Margate Design Collective.

Watching Paint Dry host Emma Jane Palin meets her first guest, Emma Jane Palin! Emma takes part in her quick-fire question round - will it be the big light or little lights? Let's find out!

Our homes are intrinsically linked to who we are. They’re a safe space, but they’re also where we take part in honest conversation, work on creative endeavours, build relationships - live, laugh, love, and all that.

The Watching Paint Dry podcast aims to tap into the intersectionality of our lives and homes. In each episode, interior stylist, writer and content creator Emma Jane Palin explores the meaning of home with a variety of guests, from musicians to the founders of an anti-racism platform.

Not one to shy away from getting stuck in, Emma will get to work decorating her new DIY and interior store, Our Curated Abode, before sitting down for a chat to “watch paint dry”. Whether it’s discussing diversity within interiors, sustainable design, or the realities of buying a home alone, there’s something to learn from every guest (and you’ll hopefully get some interior tips too!).

For more information, follow @ourcuratedabode and @emmajanepalin.