In this episode, workspace expert and consultant Phil Kirschner joins Hector Kolonos to discuss his 15 years of experience in improving work environments. Formerly at McKinsey and WeWork, Phil talks about the evolving nature of workplaces, especially in the context of the pandemic. He explains his term 'weirdo workspace things' and his contributions to Forbes about business strategies related to corporate campuses and business travel. Phil shares insights on the importance of mobility within workspaces, the challenges of legacy policies and technologies, and the role of trust between employers and employees. He also explores the concept of 'experience density' and how it impacts the vibrancy and magnetism of workspaces. Phil and Hector discuss future trends in flexible work environments and how the flex industry can adapt to seize these opportunities.

00:00 Introduction to Phil Kirchner

00:26 Defining 'Weirdo Workspace Things'

01:13 Phil's Contributions to Forbes

01:31 Learning from Campuses and Corporate Travel

05:45 The Concept of Hyper-Local Business Trips

06:42 Expense Management and Employee Benefits

08:52 Trust and Legacy Policies

16:23 Flex Office Opportunities

25:00 Experience Density in Workspaces

33:07 Conclusion and Future Insights