Hold onto your headphones, folks, because this episode is the crème de la crème—like, top-tier catnip, for real. We somehow convinced the ridiculously talented Gatlin to be our second EVER in-person guest. And yes, we spilled all the tea on her career highlights, including that time her single "What If I Love You" barely scraped by with a teeny 70 million streams on Spotify (very casual, very chill).

We also dive into the thrilling world of Belmont University (go Bruins!), her cross-country move from Nashville to Los Angeles, and a bunch of other stuff that makes us sound like we know what we're doing. But let’s not kid ourselves—the real magic is in the chaos. Gatlin dishes on her TikTok trolls, shares her mutual obsession with black cats (she and Gavyn both have a Binx, which is clearly the universe flexing), and valiantly attempts to manage the ADHD-fueled tornado that is Gavyn and Haley. Spoiler alert: it’s a hot mess, but she gave it her all.

Hit play if you're ready for wisdom sprinkled with chaos. Warning: TikTok haters may leave feeling... surprisingly entertained.

Episode Vocabulary:

“That’s For Inside The Car” – Ya’ll need to edit this out of the episode.

“Rodent Boy Summer” – refers to a group of men who are considered attractive but also have some rodent-like features.

“Kiki-ing” – A casual gathering of friends for gossiping, sharing stories, and having a good time.

Music courtesy of Artlist.io

Well, well, well… look who's decided to grace us with their presence! After a whopping 700 something days of doing some questionable things (oh sorry, I meant on “sabbatical"), Haley and Gavyn are finally back on And That’s That On That. Clearly, their two-year vacation was exhausting, but they're thrilled to return! They’re back to bless your eardrums with tales from the last Ice Age (aka the past two years), including juicy stories (think bodily fluids) and Haley's sudden career shift to FBI undercover agent (or so she claims). Buckle up, it's going to be a wild ride! --- Follow us on socials for more chaotic content: @gavynbailey & @haleschaps & @andthatsthatpod ** Don't forget to subscribe, rate this podcast & hit the notification bell so you get alerts when new episodes drop!** --- (Credits: Music by Ian Post and Nomad Producer, Courtesy of artlist.io, Audio Editing/Engineering by Gavyn Bailey, Produced by Gavyn Bailey and Haley Chapman)

Hello hello hello and welcome to Season 2 Episode 12!!!! We are officially half way through the season and we’re back from our one-week hiatus! Today our guest is Carol Ades, a globally successful artist and songwriter who released her debut single “I Can’t Wait To Be British” in 2021, but has been writing hits behind the scenes for years under her full name, Caroline Pennell. She’s written hits such as “Past Life” for Trevor Daniel and Selena Gomez, “California Sober” for Demi Lovato, "I Don't Know Why" (with NOTD) by Astrid S., and many more. She was in the Top 8 on Season Five of The Voice, and has even written a musical with Justin Tranter and Idina Menzel called “Wild” that is now a sold out show at the American Repertory Theatre. We love an undercover superstar!!! And of course, we’ve got Pit or Peak for you this week…SPOILER: it involves Miss Rona herself. All of this chaotic content is ready for your ears…ENJOY!

*Interview begins at 18:47*

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(Credits: Music by Ian Post, Courtesy of artlist.io, Audio Editing/Engineering by Gavyn Bailey, Produced by Gavyn Bailey and Haley Chapman)