Hold onto your headphones, folks, because this episode is the crème de la crème—like, top-tier catnip, for real. We somehow convinced the ridiculously talented Gatlin to be our second EVER in-person guest. And yes, we spilled all the tea on her career highlights, including that time her single "What If I Love You" barely scraped by with a teeny 70 million streams on Spotify (very casual, very chill).

We also dive into the thrilling world of Belmont University (go Bruins!), her cross-country move from Nashville to Los Angeles, and a bunch of other stuff that makes us sound like we know what we're doing. But let’s not kid ourselves—the real magic is in the chaos. Gatlin dishes on her TikTok trolls, shares her mutual obsession with black cats (she and Gavyn both have a Binx, which is clearly the universe flexing), and valiantly attempts to manage the ADHD-fueled tornado that is Gavyn and Haley. Spoiler alert: it’s a hot mess, but she gave it her all.

Hit play if you're ready for wisdom sprinkled with chaos. Warning: TikTok haters may leave feeling... surprisingly entertained.

Episode Vocabulary:

“That’s For Inside The Car” – Ya’ll need to edit this out of the episode.

“Rodent Boy Summer” – refers to a group of men who are considered attractive but also have some rodent-like features.

“Kiki-ing” – A casual gathering of friends for gossiping, sharing stories, and having a good time.

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Well, well, well… look who's decided to grace us with their presence! After a whopping 700 something days of doing some questionable things (oh sorry, I meant on “sabbatical"), Haley and Gavyn are finally back on And That’s That On That. Clearly, their two-year vacation was exhausting, but they're thrilled to return! They’re back to bless your eardrums with tales from the last Ice Age (aka the past two years), including juicy stories (think bodily fluids) and Haley's sudden career shift to FBI undercover agent (or so she claims). Buckle up, it's going to be a wild ride! --- Follow us on socials for more chaotic content: @gavynbailey & @haleschaps & @andthatsthatpod ** Don't forget to subscribe, rate this podcast & hit the notification bell so you get alerts when new episodes drop!** --- (Credits: Music by Ian Post and Nomad Producer, Courtesy of artlist.io, Audio Editing/Engineering by Gavyn Bailey, Produced by Gavyn Bailey and Haley Chapman)

Hello hello hello and welcome to Season 2 Episode 12!!!! We are officially half way through the season and we’re back from our one-week hiatus! Today our guest is Carol Ades, a globally successful artist and songwriter who released her debut single “I Can’t Wait To Be British” in 2021, but has been writing hits behind the scenes for years under her full name, Caroline Pennell. She’s written hits such as “Past Life” for Trevor Daniel and Selena Gomez, “California Sober” for Demi Lovato, "I Don't Know Why" (with NOTD) by Astrid S., and many more. She was in the Top 8 on Season Five of The Voice, and has even written a musical with Justin Tranter and Idina Menzel called “Wild” that is now a sold out show at the American Repertory Theatre. We love an undercover superstar!!! And of course, we’ve got Pit or Peak for you this week…SPOILER: it involves Miss Rona herself. All of this chaotic content is ready for your ears…ENJOY!

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This week, Gavyn and Haley have artist and songwriter Will Jay join the pod! Will is a former member of the successful boy band IM5, as well as a former contestant on The Voice China, and now is making a name for himself as an artist and songwriter. He’s accumulated over a hundred thousand followers on Instagram, and millions of streams across streaming platforms. You’ll hear us chat about our thoughts on the music industry today, growing up within the music industry and how that affects adulthood, Will’s experience as a member of IM5, his journey on The Voice China and our nostalgia for old Instagram filters…And That’s That On That!

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Hello hello hello and welcome to Season 2, Episode 10!!!! Today we’ve got the viral TikTok star herself…EILISE GUILFOYLE! You’ve probably seen at least one of her viral TikToks all over your feed as she’s already racked up 7.4 million likes and 113,000 followers on the app, almost 18,000 followers on Instagram, and has starred in multiple film & TV projects. Gavyn & Haley crack open a drink and chat with Eilise all about her career so far, how she was raised working at her family’s ham store in Virginia inspiring her hilarious characters she’s created, and much much more. Plus we’ve got another chaotic round of pit or peak, of course. Another chaotic episode starts right now…AND THAT’S THAT ON THAT.

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Hello hello hello ATTOT listeners and Happy Pride month! On this week’s episode, you’ll get an honest life update from Gavyn & Haley. We’re opening up about why your 20’s are confusing, exciting, uncomfortable, unpredictable, lonely, challenging and just flat out overrated. Life is hard and full of ups and downs, so we’re in your ears this week telling it how it is! We’ve also got a new guest popping in all the way from Nashville - Davey Arnold! He’s a baseball player turned country singer/songwriter that’s currently chasing his dreams in Music City, and climbing the charts as he goes. You can hear him featured on huge Spotify playlists like Hot Country, New Boots, and more. Welcome to Episode 9 friends! And That’s That On That.

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Hey all, Happy Thursday!! Welcome back to another episode of And That’s That On That. This month we’re spotlighting songwriters and we’re so excited to continue the streak with x2 GRAMMY-nominated songwriter, Shelly Peiken! You may know the songs she’s written such as “Bitch” by Meredith Brooks, “What A Girl Wants” and “Come On Over Baby” by Christina Aguilera, “I’m A Mess” by Bebe Rexha, “Who You Are” by Jessie J, and has written for other artists like Keith Urban, Britney Spears, Brandy, Celine Dion, Miley Cyrus, Backstreet Boys, Selena Gomez, Demi Lovato and the list goes on… She is the author of the book “Confessions of A Serial Songwriter,” an amusing and poignant memoir about Shelly's journey from young girl falling under the spell of magical songs to a working professional songwriter creating smash hits of her own. She joins us today to chat about her life in the music industry writing some of music’s biggest hits, the present day music industry, and how things have changed since she started almost thirty years ago. Plus, on this week's "Pit or Peak," Haley has a not so pleasant experience at the doctors and Gavyn has his yearly existential crisis! And That's That On That.

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Hello hello hello and welcome to Season 2 Episode 7! This week our guest is a GRAMMY-nominated songwriter, one of Nashville’s most successful songwriters currently, Tofer Brown! He’s written hit songs like “Ocean” for Lady A, “Night Shift” for Jon Pardi, “Better With You” by Jason Mraz, as well as chart-topping songs for artists like Little Big Town, Kari Jobe, Darius Rucker, Britt Nicole, Ruelle, Emily Weisband and even songs for the CMT hit series “Nashville”. You’ll hear all about how Gavyn discovered Tofer via MySpace then later wrote songs with him on a trip to Nashville at the ripe age of 15 (lol). We’ve also got another week of ‘Pit or Peak’, which includes a wild turn of events (a curveball if you will) for Haley, and an update on where in the world Gavyn is living (at the moment). All of this is ready for your ears! And That’s That On That.

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