In this episode of Do It for The Gram, Milton speaks with B. Chris Simpson about being his countertype of Social 7. B. Chris shares how being this type is wild and full of adventure and why interactions with others can bring him deep levels of joy and purpose. One of his biggest challenges is to separate from consistent service to the group though, which makes him question who he is without the social setting. Does he have worth outside of this? He also compares the differences to Milton’s countertype of Self-Preservation 7 and shares what he learned from fellow self-preservation types to slow down.

Milton's Links and Handles:

Join KCEP Program: kaizen-enneagram-community.mn.co

The B.I.G. Enneagram Retreat: bigenneagramretreat.simvoly.com/application

Milton's Website: KaizenCareers.com

Upcoming Events: kaizencareers.com/upcoming-events

IEA Links:

IEA Enneagram Experience 2025: ieaexperience.com

IEA Podcast: international-enneagram.captivate.fm

Connect with B. Chris:

Email B. Chris: Bchris.simpson@gmail.com

In this special collaborative episode with Do It for The Gram, the International Enneagram Association Podcast and Fathoms, Milton is joined by Seth “Creek” Creekmore, Lindsey Marks and Lee Fields as they preview the upcoming IEA Enneagram Experience 2025 - Global Conference and Celebration. All four hosts will be in attendance, so they share what they are looking forward to at this summer’s annual event while also reflecting on this year’s theme — 30 years honoring Enneagram pioneers and future frontiers.

The Fathoms team will continue to host the IEA podcast with the traditional long form interviews with legendary figures as well as collect personal stories from attendees to deeply humanize this work. In their current Season Five, Fathoms has been focusing on the history of the Enneagram from the perspective of different schools and models to get a fuller picture of how they’ve come into this tool, providing an important and better framework and grounding before the conference.

Milton's Links and Handles:

Join KCEP Program: kaizen-enneagram-community.mn.co

The B.I.G. Enneagram Retreat: bigenneagramretreat.simvoly.com/application

Milton's Website: KaizenCareers.com

Upcoming Events: kaizencareers.com/upcoming-events

IEA Links:

IEA Enneagram Experience 2025: ieaexperience.com

IEA Podcast: international-enneagram.captivate.fm

Connect with Creek:

Instagram: @_creekmore

Pod: Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast

Pod: Awareness to Action Enneagram Podcast

Pod: Delusional Optimism with Dr. B

Connect with Lindsey:

IG: @lindseyfaithdm

Pod: Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast

Connect with Lee:

Web: enneagrammatic.com

IG: @enneagrammatic

In this episode of Do It for The Gram, Milton speaks with Michael Shahan, a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist practicing at Moss and Main Therapy Group in Kansas City, Missouri. Michael specializes in integrating the Enneagram into therapy, using it as a tool to help his clients work through trauma, find empathy and compassion for themselves, and move toward growth. He's also the author of The Enneagram in Practice Course.

Michael talks about mistyping and why it matters through his personal experience with being mistyped as a Social Nine. He shares what helped him process his journey after discovering that he’s a Type Six, why this type is often misunderstood and how it presents differently than expected.

Milton's Links and Handles:

Join KCEP Program: kaizen-enneagram-community.mn.co

The B.I.G. Enneagram Retreat: bigenneagramretreat.com/

Milton's Website: KaizenCareers.com

Connect with Michael:

Michael’s Website: michaelshahan.com

Email Michael: hello@michaelshahan.com

Michael’s Instagram: @michaelshahan_therapy

Coaching and resources for "Enneagram in Practice": michaelshahan.com/pages/enneagram-coaching